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charles wrote
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So what other products can;t we buy because we lack a trade deal ?


None, zero, nada, not one.


So just products from the EU then.


Wrong, as always. Britain is free to buy those too without any trade deal.

You have been told on a number of occasions: trade deals
are NOT about stopping goods being sold, they're about
how much duty/tax the receiving country adds to the cost.


Yes I know, what I want to know is
WHY there is this added duty or cost.


Because that was the fashion/fad at the time,


and still is.


Nope, trade barriers like that have been dismantled
world wide for more than half a century now.

The EU was one of the last to introduce new ones.

largely the result of mindless protectionism
that was seen during the great depression that
we can still see the vestiges remaining today.


Yes protectionism is what teh EU is about


Yes, but even the EU is relaxing its tariff barriers now
and has free trade agreements will all of these now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...ade_agreements

which is why bthey threaten with tarriffs.


They dont do that much anymore.

I was a bit yuong in 1973 when we joined teh EU


I wasnt.

but I donl;t remmebr things getting cheaper as tarriffs
were removed, I remmebr things getting more expensive,


Yes, stuff that came from commonwealth countrys certainly did.

sure perhaps wine came down in price who knows.


No it didnt, that got more expensive too because the
cheapest wine came from commonwealth countrys.

It's best NOT to have a trade deal.


If you dont, you get go pay the duty the EU chooses
to apply to what comes from outside the EU.


How can the EU decide what duty products
from outside the EU should set.


Same way any country does, it plucks a number out of the air and
proclaims that that is what will be paid with import from outside the EU.

Do yyo realy think the EU should have the power to decide
what anyone pays for a computer or mobile phone.


That's what tariffs and dutys are about.

It can also decide that there will be none on trade within the EU
too, so none is charged on cars made within the EU etc etc etc.

Same with excise and the VAT and sales taxes too.

So we donl;t need a trade deal with the whole of the EU just Eire.


Ireland can't make trade deals on its own if it's part of the EU.


So how does it trade with the USA on it's own,


Doesnt need any trade deal to do that, as you have been told
repeatedly and have always been too blotto to comprehend.


Ye sI don;t understand why Eire doesntl; need a trade deal with anyone.


Because you are always completely blotto.

or with teh EU.


Eire can do what it likes trade wise with the EU because its part of the
EU.


Joining the EU was in fact agreeing to be part of that trade deal,
amongst
other things like the free movement of people within the EU.


So how many 'immigrants' does Eire need to take in order to coomply with
the free movement of people ?


It isnt about numbers, its about not preventing any EUian
who decides they want to move there from doing that.

http://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-asy...10580-Sep2015/


Those arent EU citizens, stupid.

We have recognised fewer asylum claims than many
smaller or similarly-sized countries, since 2012.


Irrelevant to what is allowed with EU CITIZENS.

For example, Irelands favourable asylum decisions were 20 times fewer
than
Norways, despite the two countries having almost identical populations.


Irrelevant to what is allowed with EU CITIZENS.

So how come EIRE doesn;t have to abide by the same EU ideals ?


The free movement of EU CITIZENS has absolutely NOTHING to do
with what happens to asylum seekers who even a terminal ****wit
such as yourself should have noticed arent EU citizens.

http://www.techinsider.io/where-ipho...me-from-2016-4


The camera is made in japan.
a lot of the rare materials come from the congo area of africa via
foxxcon.


There are in fact **** all rare materials in an iphone.


Brain dead moron


Your sig is sposed to be last with a line with just -- on it in front of it.

http://www.cnet.com/uk/news/digging-...ones-are-born/


Europium is a phosphor that creates a bright red on an iPhone screen,
a Rare earth element symbol Eu which doesn;t mean it comes from the EU.


And there is sweet **** all of that in an iphone.

"Your iPhone doesn't work without rare earths in there, "
said Mark Smith, chief executive of Molycorp.


Still **** all of that in an iphone.