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Apple does not have a trade agreement with Eire the EU or the UK.


Wrong with Eire.


Right with Eire.


Apple does in fact have a deal with Eire to get them
to setup there instead of somewhere else in the EU.


So does Apple have to agree to free movement of labour too ?


If you can't do any better than this pathetic
****, your **** will be flushed where it belongs.

So what other products can;t we buy because we lack a trade deal ?


Never said there was anything that Britain can't buy from the
US because there is no bilateral trade deal with the US. In fact I
have always said the exact opposite, that trade is always possible
without any bilateral trade deal at all and even a terminal ****wit
such as yourself should have noticed that the by far the most
comprehensive trade deal the world has ever seen, the WTO,
had both Britain and the US massively involved in setting it up.


And in those deal the movement of labour or a
workforced or immigration is NOT linked with trade.


Duh. Its only the EU that has that terminal stupidity.

So why is trade and immigration have to be linked in the EU


Because that is how the EU has chosen to operate with the EU.

it doesn;t is the answer no nore so than me having
to become muslim to not drink or buy a kebab.


Even sillier than you usually manage.

For whatever reason the EU has decided that trade
and immigration must be linked for whatever reason,


Not with all but 3 of these it hasnt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...ade_agreements

And that was never part of the TTIP either.

adn I don't belive they need to be linked.


Corse they dont. The EU has however chosen
to do that with EU member countrys.

It really is that simple.


Wrong, as always.

currencies have always fluctuated that's what the EU was
really all about leveling the field across the whole of europe


Wrong, as always.


right as always that's why europe went the way of the Euro to eliminate
exchange rates and currancy fluctuations between EU counties.


That isnt what the EU was really all about. The euro came later.


Yes as a further control thre major playres in the EU wanted, they wanated
to control the flow of everything around the EU, money, trade, labour.


In fact the free movement of people is about the exact
opposite to them having any say whatever on the
movement of people. Same with trade within the EU too.

And the eurozone was never about them controlling
the flow of money within the EU either.

but what option do they have left join the
pound and admit defeat or call them dollars.


The other obvious option is to **** over the worst of
the EU like Greece and make them get their act into
gear. And that is precisely what they have done.


and as yet have still failed.


We'll see...

In a legal sense they come from China to Eire. In practice
they come directly from China to where they are sold.


Does teh EU have a trade deal with china then ?


Doesnt need one. And both are involved in the WTO anyway.


So why does the UK need one when we too are involved in the WTO.


It doesnt. I have always said that Britain is free to trade under the WTO
rules.

It may however choose to attempt to do better than that on tariffs etc too.

Do we buy apple computers in yen,


Nope, Japan is irrelevant.


dollars or euros .


Dollars, because that's what Apple wants.


In fact most of the trade in Apple products in the EU is in euros.

Because that's where the owners of
the product are located NOT in china.


Irrelevant to the fact that the absolute vast bulk
of apple products are in fact assembled in China.

Apple of the USA makes the large profits NOT
china who are working for the US company.


Duh.

they donlt have a trade deal with the USA


Dont need to because legally they are coming
from Eire with what ends up in europe.


So we donl;t need a trade deal with the whole of the EU just Eire.


Dont NEED a trade deal with Eire either.


We don't NEED a trade deal with anyone,


Duh.

well not the sort the EU insists on.


It didnt with all but 3 of these.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe...ade_agreements

But we don't need a trade deal to do that.


Duh. But have by far the most comprehensive trade
deal the world has ever seen, the WTO, anyway.


So use that rather than the 2nd rate one the EU takes.


Not as good as no tariffs on anything.

yeah sure.
Where do you think the parts come from.


Mostly from China, some from Korea. None
of the parts come from the US with iphones.


http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/ap...onese-3633832/


The biggest difference Apple has from other manufacturers is that it
sources its materials
and components from other manufacturers that operate throughout the globe.


In fact **** all comes from anywhere except China, Korea, Japan and a bit
from Taiwan.

For example, its displays are mainly made in Japan by Japan Display and
Sharp,
and some are still made in South Korea by LG Display; whilst the Touch ID
sensor
found in its recent iPad and iPhone models are made in Taiwan by TSMC
(Taiwan
Semiconductor Manufacturing Company) and Xintec. In fact, its list of
suppliers for
2014-2015 stretches to more than 200 various suppliers located throughout
the world.


In fact **** all that matters comes from anywhere except China, Korea, Japan
and a bit from Taiwan.

http://comparecamp.com/how-where-iph...uring-process/


even simple enough for you hopefully a picture showing where
in the world parts are from, some parts come from the UK.


**** all of the parts that matter do.

What laws were there on trade 2000+ years ago.


What the romans had.


We were trading before the romans arrived.


Duh.