Brian Gaff wrote

Out of date does not equate to being wrong though.

True.

One has to guard against the so called wisdom from the new Labourites

Only if it is wrong.

and the original idea of socialism. The clue is in the word.

Not clear what you are saying there.

I'd suggest if there really is a groundswell of real socialists out there,

Of course there is.

and this is reflected in the general population,

Of course it is. His problem is that there aren't enough who
believe in that approach to ever get to be the govt anymore.

he should have no trouble setting up a party with his union friends and
money and getting all the new Labour MPs voted out at the next election.

He will if there isnt enough of them. Just like UKIP couldn’t manage to get
enough MPs elected, even tho a majority do want Britain to leave the EU.

I don't understand why he is trying to make square pegs go into round
holes.

He basically believes that the old hard left policys are the correct ones.

Most of the new Labour folk have more in common with lib dems than a true
socialist party.

Yes, but for some reason they prefer to be part of Labour.

Just as true of Blair and Brown too.

The fear for many is that socialism leads to communism, but that is just
being silly.

Yes.

It should lead to decisions made for the community, not the people who are
making all the money.

That isnt what right of center politics is about.

I remember Harold Wilson who tried to stop rich people taking their money
out of the country. that did not work back then either.

And to remove the money from them with punitive
death dutys etc. That doesn’t work either.

However, I do feel that a state owned non profit organisation should run
things like public transport and key industries like electricity and gas
distribution.

That is certainly a defendable position. Same
with schools, health care and universitys etc too.

The main issue is to make them competitive without competition and the
profit motive.

Yes, that that just isnt possible with
any of what you listed and I added to.

One needs a new morality of doing the right thing. a social conscience,
much lacking today.

It always was. It was only ever a tiny minority
of the capitalists that ever had much of that.