On Monday, 13 June 2016 13:58:16 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tabbypurr wrote:
On Monday, 13 June 2016 09:10:58 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:

Anyway, wtf does "sovereignty" actually _MEAN_?

Oh boy. It means we can vote political parties out of office if we don't
like what they do. It means we have some control over our lives.

You don't vote for a political party in the UK. All you can do is vote for
the MP of your choice. A very different matter.

not really


Compare this with the typical European country model where no-one even
takes laws seriously. For a long list of reasons. And that's their own
country's laws.

Ever been to Germany? That is the largest EU country. Where they are far
more law abiding in general than the UK.

Germany's weird. In Italy, Spain & Portugal laws are generally not taken too seriously.


When people outside of UK rule what happens here, generally they have
little care or concern what the results are, or what we think of it. AND
we will be wholly unable to remove them from office or repeal the laws.
Only someone that doesn't understand the fundamentals of basic liberties
would vote for such a stupid loss of freedoms.

The typical EU against poor little England response.

Hardly. Just a question of basic liberties & sovereignty.


Despite UK MEPs
voting in favour of about 80% of EU stuff.

So by your figures in the EU we'd have to swallow 20% of stuff we don't like. I'm not seeing how that would be an advantage.

And the even weirder notion
that each and every EU country has more in common with the others than the
UK. Which you'd know is total ******** if you'd ever set foot outside the
Daily Telegraph.

I've travelled enough to know the law is a different animal in many European countries.


"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin.

That well known Englishman. Who presumably believed in the rights of all
to carry assault rifles into gay clubs.

You do talk nonsense.


NT