I haven't seen a ripsaw in a hardware store in 40 years.
I suppose you could buy one on line. But having a ground saw isn't
that uncommon. They do that on table saw blades and other products.

Martin

On 6/10/2016 3:37 AM, steve robinson wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 22:03:38 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

You are looking at green or almost green pine. That needs some set.

If you are cutting hardwood, walnut, Oak, etc NONE is the word in the
sentence. See the QUOTE - that is letter to letter from Isaac Smith.

Martin

It also states on heavily taper ground saw plates .

I don't know any saw manufacturer in the western world that produces
as a stock item mass produced ripsaws without set of some kind







On 6/9/2016 2:01 AM, steve robinson wrote:
On Thu, 9 Jun 2016 00:10:25 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

Trolling - see if you have 20+ years in the group I suspect I have more.

Now look at Cut 10 figure 23 rip teeth. Notice the non-diamond shape
and the slight bend. That isn't set to my thinking - I quote from the
article by Isaac Smith:

"Set varies from none in saws that are heavily taper ground and used in
dry hardwoods, to a hundredth of an inch or more in coarse saws used in
wet woods."

I don't cut much green wood with a hand saw. Double Buck yes. Hardwoods
and dry has "None to a hundred of an inch" None for hardwoods and
hundred of an inch for green wood.

Thanks for the facts that you don't seem to read. Look below figure 24.
And then the example figure 25.

None means ZERO(0).

The pictures have to show something to show the measurement area.

Martin

Figure 24 quite clearly shows set in a ripsaw in the link below, i
have already provided details of manuals showing set in ripsaws , if
you look on the disstons archives it quite clearly shows ripsaws
have set.

Disstons produced one ripsaw for a very short time designed to cut
dry hardwood without set, it was discontinued, although it was an
excellent saw tradesmen found by putting a set on it aactually
performed far better.

Heavily taper ground rip saws although experimented with never
really found favour , they where in general heavier gauge steel to
facilitate the heavy taper needed to accommodate free movement
through the timber, couldn't cope well with resin or sap and still
had issues with binding, hence the reason Disstons dropped the 120
from its line, its use unless set was extremely limited.

Its quite clear your assertion that ripsaws were not set is wrong
conformed by your own evidence.

No one has denied that some manufacturers experimented with no set
ripsaws , however the end result was they were usually discontinued
after a very short time because of the limited use.











On 6/8/2016 5:20 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 22:54:35 -0500, Martin Eastburn wrote:

What is your definition of set ?

http://www.blackburntools.com/articl...try/index.html

See the last page or so.

Since I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that you're trolling, I won't
be responding to this thread any more. If you're not trolling, and live
in a universe where "set" means what you say it means, and not what the
rest of the universe says it means, more power to you.