On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 16:03:03 -0400, "Steve W."
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:11:11 -0400, "Steve W."
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The Dodge Caravan is getting 22mpg and doing just fine.
22 mpg?! Empty and going downhill with a tailwind at 264 mph on the
way to a $75 per hour job no doubt!

22mpg with a Caravan is normal.

It's normal exaggeration, usually the result of faulty measurement
and/or selective amnesia. It's not restricted to any particular
vehicle. In fact, I know someone with a Dodge 3500 dually, Cummins
IIRC, who swears he gets 30 mpg. When confronted with some guffaws, he
clarified that he *once* got 30 on a "flat" section of highway. In
fact, I know his usual trip, which includes some substantial hill
climbing on a dirt road. He gets 15 no matter what he says. He can
swear on his mother's grave, say it was verified by Stephen Hawking,
or whatever. He still gets 15 on his normal trips. Wieber probably
gets the same with his POS loaded truck that spends a lot of time in
traffic and probably only has a fully inflated tire when he pays for a
flat repair.

We got that as normal MPG in fully loaded Caravans all the time. No
exaggeration as our fuel and mileage were tracked with every fill and
over a long period of time.

They are much better on fuel than you think.

No, I think they get something under 20 overall in average conditions,
just like Ed said. In my driving, which includes some serious hill
climbing, it would be more like 17 overall. Wieber's would be worse
still. He's sleeping in the thing for crying out loud. Exaggerating
his mileage is just his way of putting the best face on it. Besides,
mileage calculations are way over his head, fillups are probably rare
considering he's always broke, and he probably only puts in $10 at a
time.