On 06/04/2016 17:33, pamela wrote:
On 16:02 6 Apr 2016, Stuart Noble wrote:

On 06/04/2016 13:50, michael adams wrote:
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
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IIRC there was some discussion recently about the above re
blood pressure. Having had some unpleasant experiences with
the legal high known as beta blockers (and now also with
amlodipine), I'm determined to get off medication altogether.
I've got me a Nutri Ninja but I hate beetroot, so anyone got
any alternatives? Not that keen on kale either as it happens
:-)

Sorry to hear of your experiences with beta-blockers. It
appears I'm among the lucky ones having never experienced any
adverse side effects having been on them for over ten years.

A lot probably depends on how high your unmedicated blood
pressure actually is, although that itself is a minefield -
time of day - whitecoat effect - wide variations in readings
etc. as to whether its advisable to abandon conventional
medication under all but the most extreme circumstances.

Basically for people like me

"During the 4 weeks they were taking the juice, patients in the
active supplement group (whose beetroot juice contained
inorganic nitrate) experienced a reduction in blood pressure of
8/4 mmHg (millimeters of mercury) ."

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/288229.php

a reduction of 8mm sys and 4mm dia don't really do much and
fall well with the normal range I get when taking my own
readings.

The problem with alternative treatments, certainly with studies
which the make headlines is that their effects are often
limited to fairly specific groups, and often involve unusually
large doses.

Of lifestyle in general, for many of us its the usual story.
Lose a few pounds or stones, drink less, less sodium, no
smoking.

There's no silver bullets, nutri or otherwise I'm afraid.


michael adams

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No silver bullets? Put it this way, I just spent 3 days in
hospital with an ever increasing array of medication being
applied to reduce my pulse rate from the dizzy heights of 125.
Just wouldn't shift.

Being back at home for 2 days produced no change, so this
morning I abandoned all medication, including stuff I'd be on
for years, and had a beetroot smoothie instead. 15.00 hrs and my
pulse is ranging between 60 and 70. No great believer in
alternative mumbo jumbo but.....

What was the cause of your high pulse rate?


Let's just say two consultants plus me haven't a clue as to why it was
high since BP wasn't too awful and ECG was normal in other respects.