clare wrote, on Tue, 08 Dec 2015 17:26:51 -0500:

That may be location specific. Around here they can both be bimmers,
or beemers - And they are often called a lot worse!!!

Let's stop discussing this because there is a well known description
which I pointed folks to, which clearly shows what aficionados call
the thing in the US and in the UK.

In other countries, their typical customs and norms will prevail.
Remember, I didn't bring this up.

Someone asked.
I explained.

They asked for clarification.
I provided a reliable reference.

They either accept the answer or they don't.
There's nothing more for me to tell them.