On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 04:18:46 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 00:11:19 -0400, "Steve W."
wrote:

Tom Gardner wrote:
On 10/13/2015 8:12 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 05:52:07 -0400, Tom Gardner
wrote:

On 10/13/2015 4:14 AM, Steve W. wrote:
Steve Walker wrote:
Buying a Glock G42 for the wife, 'cause it's light and small. She has
shot my Ruger 10-22 target pistol, and says it's too heavy. Having a
lot more violent crime happening a mile or so away from where we live,
and she wants a pistol that she can handle, in the house. Looking for
ammunition recommendations, or maybe another pistol recommendation,
must be lightweight, low to mild recoil, and well built.
Ammo -

Precision One 90 grain HP/XTP
Federal Premium Hydra-Shock 90 grain JHP

Both work very well in my PPK.

I tell my students to use whatever ammo that they can hit a cantaloupe
at 25' every time (7 ring on paper). But your choices are good. Any
gun/ammo combination works well as long as you're comfortable and confident.
Well...not exactly true.....a 380 at 50 feet with FMJs...really isnt
what I want to be carrying for a sidearm.

But then..I dont have much use for 380s anyways, even with the new
wonder ammo. I think Id rather carry a .22lr than a 380s..but thats
just me.

The 380 is almost off the paper on the low end for a self defense
cartridge. Shrug


Gunner


Some people like 380's, I don't have one, no redeeming qualities for me.
It's what works for a person. Any gun/ammo that puts rounds on target
beats any magnum that you can't hit a barn with! I can hit dimes with
my Mark II but it.s too big and heavy to carry, especially with the 50mm
red dot. I thought about a Crimson Trace for the 442 but for the cost.

Yep MUCH better to carry a combo that you can reliably hit the target
than something that stays in the safe. Plus I have yet to find one of
the folks who say the .380 is useless for self defense BUT will let me
shoot them with it to prove they are right !!!

Ball ammo is not what I'd use for self defense in any weapon if it's my
choice. A good JHP does a better job.

In 1977 I took 2 rounds of .380 close to the center of my early model
(issue) Blankenship vest. from an beat up old Astra pistol in the
hands of a drunken Latino who had just shot and wounded his wife.
It felt like I was hit by a couple golf balls hit by a kid. with a
short iron. Didnt even leave much of a bruise. FMJ of course.

Several years later..a fellow deputy was hit smack dab in the x ring
with a 230gr full metal jacket round, wearing the same model vest.
Busted his sternum, left a bruise the size of a desert plate and put
him on his ass from the shock. Didnt knock him down..but stunned him
and he fell. His partner shot the bad guy (once) with a 12ga and a
load of double ought. DRT.

Yeah...both rounds can kill you, but one will do a much better and
faster job of it.
Granted the new bullets "usually" open up and do internal damage..but
the "shocking power" or basic ballistics sure doesnt drive that bullet
very deep if its launched from a low velocity firearm.
Hence....while I do own some .32s and some 380s..they are not..not
what I will carry for a self defense cartridge. If its worth
doing..its worth doing right.

The .380 is infamous for being stopped by decent winter coat and a
sweat shirt or two. There are more than a few reports of this
happening. Even the old .38 S&W will punch through that. Might not go
real deep..but...

Which is why the .380 is charitablly at the far low end of self
defense cartridges and even then its considered to be a "maybe"
stopper.

Shrug

Gunner

I should also mention that good small 9mms are readily available that
will put a badguy down. The 380..is the answer to a question that
today..nobody asks.

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