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On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 11:36:50 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:



Well that is the beginning of the end for the Republican Party.

Dan

At least..the Republican Party as its been for the past 40 yrs. And
good riddance!!

I believe we are watching something called "cleaning out the deadwood"

One can only hope so.

--
"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Be careful of what you ask for. You may get it. As in getting a Democratic president , say Hillary Clinton. And a Democratic Congress.

What could that get us. More Gun Control laws, no keystone pipeline, " improved " Healthcare, Worse economy. Higher Corporate taxes, Special taxes on drug manufacturers, more national debt.

Dan

It WILL also get us the Second American Revolution within a year or
two of the Democrats going into action. There is no..no doubt that
the American people are just about full up with the bull**** spread by
the DNC and their RINO compatriots.

Both of you ought to start handloading, then. You'll have to hold off
over 200 million people.

Remember, Gunner, the Great Cull will start by 2012. In your
neighborhood, that ought to come along any year now.

One thing I could never understand about the Great Cull (GC) is that
while about one-third of U.S. families have a gun on the premises and
Republicans (Right wing Group) make up about 49% of that number, the
other 51% are Democrats and "Others".

It would appear that the right wingers are out gunned.

By a couple of orders of magnitude. But if you follow them closely,
especially Gunner and Larry, you'll note that they have a bad case of
the Timothy McVeigh affliction: They think that once something gets
started, the right-wingers will rise up out of their tarpaper shacks
and join the revolution.

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Ed Huntress

Well, it does make a nice fantasy, but doesn't have much basis in
reality.

Even a casual look at places where there have been major disturbances
it appears that the police appear to continue to work for the people
that pay them a salary. In Germany the some policemen were employed by
the "Government" regardless whether the government was the Weimar
Republic, the National Socialists, or the foreign powers during the
post war years. . I worked with a Hungarian who had served under three
(I think he said) regimes. I asked him about that and he said, "what
did I know, I just carried a gun".

I wasn't in Indonesia when the last big riot happened but I made a
trip to Jakarta a few days after the riot ended while stores were
still gutted. Both the police an the army remained loyal to the
government.

The other point that seems to be overlooked is that spontaneous
uprising are not successful. The various Color riots - New York and
Los Angeles, for example,

But I suppose that if you feel down trodden it is a nice dream.

I wonder what King George III or Czar Nicholas II or even King Louis
XVI would have to say about those claims?

Or maybe...some of these people....


Neither the American revolution, the Communist takeover in Russia, nor
the French revolution was a spontaneous up-rising. They were all a
product of groups of people who agitated, influenced and planned a
evolution. The "American Revolution" seems to have been largely
influenced by wealthy people who stood to get even richer if the
English were gone. The tea thrown in Boston harbor, for example, would
have sold at a cheaper price, due to a change in English law, than the
tea being smuggled by local ship owners from Holland.


Yes and? Revolution is revolution.

Your listing of ancient "revolutions", which appears the Wiki list, is
not a list of spontaneous up-risings, in fact the description of most
indicate that they were planned and led, by individuals. "a revolution
under the leadership of Joe Blow..."

Ancient revolutions? I take it you havent read the entire time line.
And no..not all of them were planned...but whats wrong with planning
for one?..or planning one?

You seemed to have drifted off into the ozone here....

Even a reading of recent news demonstrates your errors. Timothy
McVeigh, Ruby Ridge, The Branch Davidian, all might be termed
spontaneous up-risings against the U.S. government. They all failed.

But more to the point, spontaneous up-risings have to start somewhere.
You seem to be one of the major publicists of the "Great Cull", so all
right Gunner go get 'em. Drive up to Sacramento and shoot the
Governor.

Me? Im just a harmless lovable fuzzball. What makes you think Id be
involved in something like this? Im old.

Did Ol' Weird Ed just commit a felony by telling you to commit murder
of the California leadership? Somebody call a Fed!

Having trouble with attributions, Larry? That was John, not me. I'm
the one who says you're a couple of cowards who are all mouth. You
want someone else to do it, as you've both made clear.


And Gunner seems to have demonstrated his true colors. After
threatening multiple individuals as well as forecasting the "Great
Cull", for years now, when offered the chance to demonstrate his
bravery he now back pedaling, admitting to the world that he is
nothing but a feeble old man.

You seem to have some comprehension issues. Is this the result of a
stroke or head injury, or too much Thai Stick?

Even a harmless lovable fuzzball can see that you have ...issues,
based on this post of yours.


Gunner

What comprehension issues is that? The fact that you have been
prophesying the "Great Cull" for years now? Or the fact that you
stated that you are an old man, or that you have memory loss due to a
stroke?

The Cull/Second American Revolution isnt going to happen? Is that your
claim?

Well, if I remember correctly you specified that 2012 was The Year.
Based on your prediction I have grave doubts about whether it will
ever happen.


3 yrs is not so long. And Pyotar convinced me why it wouldnt happen
then, which I clearly stated at that time.

But....shrug..it will happen. Same as in 1776 etc etc. as well as the
long..long list of such events in history that I posted.

Of course Im an "old man", Ill be 63 next month. And memory
loss...yes indeed, but Ive recovered much of it. And?

Or the fact that you apparently don't know what you are talking about?

Be glad you arent living in the US. Say..didnt your home nation just
have another revolution a few days ago? Wasnt much of one as I
recall.

Gunner

Nope. The last (un-successful) rebellion was in 1912. Since then we
now have coups where a section of the army simply marches in and takes
over. The closest thing we have to a "rebellion" in the past 100 years
was in 1985 when two factions of the Army both wanted the brass ring
and there was an open battle in downtown Bangkok, which lasted a few
hours. The coup collapsed, literally overnight, when the King made a
radio broadcast saying that he had perfect confidence in General Prem
(who was Prime Minister at the time).

Odd...the research I did inicated there was another one last year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...efinitely-was/

I would have sworn I read about another one a few weeks ago.
Shrug...perhaps it was another third world asian nation..but Thailand
sticks in my mind.


Well I can't speak for a foreign newspaper's interpretation, Hell! I
just live here. But I saw nothing to indicate any revolution. The Army
simply walked in the door and took over. No shooting or anything else.
The TV didn't seem to be working that morning but about lunch time it
came back on and an announcement was made that the Army was running
things. No guns were fired, no bodies in the street, no politicians
lined up and executed. The stores remained open, the busses kept
running, no crowds in the streets. Nothing.

If that is your idea of a revolution then I can only say that you have
very strange ideas.

So if a person, heavily armed enters your home and states its now his,
in a nice tone of voice..but mentions that if you argue with him he
will shoot you....its really not a crime?

Fascinating...absolutely fascinating


What is fascinating is how you can slither and squirm all around the
subject and never even come close.

Slither around what subject?

We were talking about revolutions and I said that Thailand hadn't had
a revolution in the last 100 years. You than countered with a
description from the Washington Post trying to call it a revolution
and I said that I was right here in the city and I didn't see any
revolution.

Yet Thailand has had 11 of them since 1939. And thats not "any"?

I can only assume that your understanding of the English language is
very limited, or you are just arguing to try and disguise the fact
that you don't know what you are talking about.

You can, or course call an elephant a mouse, if you want to. Of curse
it makes you look stupid and you'll have to haul a great deal more
fodder to feed your "mouse", but it is a free country.

Id have to say you were either stupid...or insane

Now you are going on about some house breaker.

Pishposh...dont tell us you are THAT stupid....geeze dude!

I hate to be the one to tell you but a burglar coming in the door does
not mean that there is a revolution in your front room.

Tsk tsk....and you pull a richshaw on Tudo Street for a living?


And yet another example of Gunner's astonishing knowledge of the
world.

"Tudo Street" was in Saigon, South Vietnam (it no longer exists) while
I reside in Bangkok, Thailand, some 700 Km. away and on the other side
of Cambodia.

Sort of like confusing Bakersfield with Phoenix.

Come now laddy....sure you arent that simple minded?
Say it isnt so!!

Perhaps "Gunner" should be pronounced "Dummy".
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cheers,

John B.