On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 9:42:04 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 09:46:43 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
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On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 11:03:22 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 15:37:02 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/8/2015 3:20 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 13:51:56 -0400, Stormin Mormon
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http://allenwestrepublic.com/2015/07...ependence-day/


Published on July 2nd, 2015 | by Allen West Republic


Here is a list of the Top 5 Things Liberals Never
Remember ON Independence Day



2. It was about Religious Freedom: What the ACLU
was once FOR, they are now AGAINST. They are using
a made up accusation of discrimination to prevent
the actual practice of religious convictions.



How come it's acceptable to be a bigot if you do it in the name of
your religion?

Why do you consider practicing ones freedom of choice to be equivalent
to being a bigot?

If baking a "gay cake" is offensive because my bible
tells me that why should the religious person get to refuse service

Business owners should have the right to determine what sort of services
they will offer and not offer. If baking a "gay cake" isn't a service
they offer, why should anyone try to usurp the business owners rights to
what services they will provide? A straight person might also want to
order a "gay cake" and they would also be turned down.

The service would be equally denied to straight or gay people. There
would not be anything illegal in doing so.

but someone who is not religious but also finds gays offensive not be
similarly allowed to refuse them the service? And if my bible says
blacks are inferior why should I be able to refuse service to blacks.


The race argument is moot.

No the race argument isn't moot. You want religious belief to be able
to be able to trump the law. Which is why you are against being
"forced" to bake a gay cake.

No one is saying religious freedom trumps the law. I'm against
anyone being forced to bake a cake period. Sounds like Stalin,
Kim Jung Un or Hitler to me.


And if the religion says blacks are
inferior, as some do,

Which religion is that?


you would have to also say religious people
could refuse anything having to do with blacks.

I'd be fine with that, for the reasons I previously described.
There is no widespread discrimination today, and the heavy handed
politically correct "enforcement", where you force people to
bake cakes, is worse than any problem with black discrimination.
If discrimination were totally legal, do you think Walmart
is going to put up a sign, "no blacks"? The local hardware
store where you live? A gas station. Sure there would be a few
idiots someplace that would want to screw their businesses and
do it. But, so what? You libs want to pretend that you can
eliminate every wrong, every place, by the most draconian means,
even when it's hardly a problem today.

You would want your
religious beliefs to be able to trump ANY law that you claimed
infringed on your beliefs. So what makes religious bigotry "special",
why can't a non-religious bigot have the same choice to refuse service
for things they don't like, like gays or blacks etc.

I say they should be able to. It's called freedom. Problem solved.

Say whatever you want. Your still a bigot because there is no
business related reason you would refuse service to gays or blacks.

Stick to the facts. I'm not a bigot, because I wouldn't choose to
refuse service to gays or blacks. It's just I'm not of the mindset
to use the heavy hand of govt to force everyone to think the way I
do, behave exactly the way I do, etc. If one baker in Oregon wants
to refuse to bake a gay wedding cake, there are 99.9% of other bakers
who will welcome their business. Probably many that, having learned
what happened, would do it for free too. In other words, there is no real
problem. And unlike you libs, I like a rainbow of diversity, where
people are free. I have no compelling need to find non-problems and
crush people with govt. The race baiters and big lib govt types, they
always have the need.

BTW, where is your lib outrage at the unconstitutional gag order
the court put on them? THAT alone shows where the bigger problem is.