On Saturday, July 11, 2015 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-4, Robert Green wrote:
"trader_4" wrote in message news:388319c7-

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No one is saying religious freedom trumps the law.

That's precisely what the religious exceptionists ARE preaching. In Oregon,
which had anti-gay discrimination laws in place, the bakers explicitly
claimed their religion gave them the right to refuse service. The court and
authorities decided otherwise.

They aren't saying religious freedom "trumps" the law at all.
They are saying religious freedom is incorporated into the law,
ie the constitution. The SC in their recent gay marriage law
decision, in Hobby Lobby, etc has affirmed that. The only question
now is to clarify it based on specific cases.


I'm against anyone being forced to bake a cake period.
Sounds like Stalin, Kim Jung Un or Hitler to me.

You make it sound like these folks didn't sell cakes for a living and these
gay demons broke into a hair salon and demanded they bake a cake for them.

Never said or implied any such thing. Stick to the facts.


It's the baker's business. No one forced them to do anything.

Good grief. Of course they are being forced. Did you even read
what happened? They are being forced to serve customers they
don't choose to serve or close/sell their business. In addition,
the court imposed a *gag order* on them, barring them from voicing
their objections. Of course, when it's a gag order on free speech
in the name of a lib cause, then it's OK.


They chose to
disobey the law, slander the couple as well as refusing to bake a cake and
paid the price.

Please show us that slander.

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Maybe you can explain how baking a cake for a gay client poisons their
religiosity anyway? Is it that feeble that a cake threatens it?

Are you and all the libs, all the gays so feeble that what one
baker in a country of 320 mil does, threatens all of you?


Are they
afraid their soul will be damned for selling cakes to sinners?

MAybe they are. And if so, I say it's their right. That makes it
simple, no need to figure out exactly what people are thinking,
should think, must think, can't say, etc. Once you go there, as you
libs like to do, this is what you get.