On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 2:29:49 PM UTC-4, Max wrote:
On 3/24/2015 11:47 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/24/2015 10:43 AM, Max wrote:


for another case of safety features with lots of data look at NFL
injuries went way up after they started using helmets, etc.
in other words the operators tested the limits
many have paid the price

long winded point is just that safety features can blur the fundamentals


It occurs to me to wonder how many people there might be who have become
more aware of their vehicles limitations because of the emphasis on ABS.


You mean like the 4WD SUV's that drivers feel can still go 70 mph on an
icy road? Four wheel drive does not mean four wheel stop. Strictly
anecdotal, but I've seen more of them in the ditch than regular cars.

We have a winner, folks.

A few years ago SWMBO and I were white knuckling it on a 2 lane highway during a blizzard. We were moving along slow but smooth with the rest of the traffic, doing maybe 20 MPH.

Suddenly, an SUV goes sailing past us on the right hand shoulder, kicking up snow and scaring the crap out of us and others. You could see brakes lights go on as the SUV startled the drivers he was passing. SWMBO and I wished ill upon the SUV driver for being such an A-hole. I'm sure we were not alone.

A few miles down the road, traffic was reduced to a crawl. As we proceeded slowly along with the other cars, we started to hear horns beeping. Then, just ahead, we saw the headlights of the SUV pointing across the highway, while his rear wheels were stuck in the ditch. All of the folks he had passed were honking their horns to say "Hi!" as they drove right by, leaving him in the ditch. I, too, sounded a hardy greeting.