On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:46:22 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
wrote:

On Monday, December 15, 2014 9:09:52 PM UTC-8, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:53:42 -0800 (PST), jon_banquer
wrote:

On Monday, December 15, 2014 7:30:46 PM UTC-8, slow eddy failed:

slow eddy continued to prove that I pull his strings and he jumps.

Tell this group again about what a success the Chevy Volt is, slow eddy.

Just about exactly what I predicted. They've sold a few more than the
first eight years of Corvette production.

How's that cricket with wheel pants doing? You know, this one:

Once again you're full of **** and KiddingNoOne who has a clue because you have no idea how many people put down deposits to buy an Aptera. -- Jonny Bonkers, March 30, 2013

Did they get their money back?

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Ed Huntress

The Chevy Volt has been a complete failure. Perhaps the car reminds you of yourself and that's why you like it.

I don't see the second generation doing much better.

Jon, you don't "see" much of anything about cars, because as you've
proved over and over, you're a car ignoramus who gets his knowledge
from secondary sources and equally ignorant all-purpose journalists.
Press releases seem to be your primary source for most things, as you
proved with your foolish and inaccurate claims about the GT40 at
Daytona, which you lifted straight from a Ford press release.

From your sweaty enthusiasm for the Aptera (stillborn) to your
ignorant claims that pushrod engines are more "advanced" than overhead
cams, to your Team Barcalounger expertise on car racing, you're about
as knowledgable as a 15-year-old kid who just read his first car
magazine.

You predicted that GM would drop the Volt, while it's was selling
around 25,000 cars/year before gas prices crashed, and all electric
car sales took a dive. It paced the first few years of the Prius.
That's not bad for a new-concept car. It's many times what some other
new-concept cars sold in their first few years out of the box.

Now gas is cheap and all electrics -- hybrids and otherwise -- are
doing lousy. The Volt, like the Prius, is going to take a dive for
final 2014 sales. That's the way it goes. Electrics are still an iffy
proposition and there's only enthusiasm for them when gas prices are
rising.

As for your obnoxious lies about what I said about it, I said from the
start that I didn't expect the car to sell in big volumes. It was too
expensive from the start and I think it's too complicated to make
cheaply. It's a good first step for a series hybrid that people will
actually buy -- tens of thousands of them. You just got upset because
you wanted everyone to jump up and down about the Aptera, which was a
loser from the beginning. You'll never get many people to accept that
rolling insect, even if they ever do try to build them in production.

Will the Volt succeed? It's still too early to tell. Chevy almost
killed the Corvette several different times. For the first four years,
Corvette sales averaged around 3,500 per year. In 2012 and 2013, they
sold roughly 25,000 Volts each year. Until gas prices crashed, they
were well up in the overall model sales rankings. Not too shabby.

But I've always been skeptical about hybrids of all types, as a
long-term solution. Two motors and two complete energy-storage
systems, plus all of the mechanical and electronic complexity to
integrate them -- it doesn't make a lot of sense when turbodiesels are
already creeping up on their mileage figures, and HCCI engines in the
labs are already doing just as well with a variety of fuels.

As for your "knowledge" about marketing -- cars or anything else --
we'll see what you have to say if you ever manage to market or sell
anything. Your buffoonery on that subject is exceeded only by your
obnoxious personality. You have no clue; you can't hold a job; and
you've probably never been near a marketing department for anything.

Now, stop trying to bull**** your way. Everybody here knows you're a
four-flusher (except maybe for mog, but that's another story). You
can't get away with faking it.

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Ed Huntress