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You can stab a burglar in America.

You can if you are in danger in that soggy little island too.

And you should be allowed to here too.

You are if you are in danger.

If you do you'll be prosecuted and msot likely found guilty. Ask
Tony
Martin.

I seem to recall, from the news reports, that in TM's case the guy
who
was shot was running away, therefore TM was no longer in danger.
There
is a subtle difference here, which makes a big difference, in the
actions that you are allowed to take.


Shooting anyone with an illegal firearm will get you prosecuted.
Shooting someone with a legal one may get you prosecuted but if your
explanation is good enough the jury will not find you guilty.

You can use as much force as necessary to protect you and your family
but you can expect to justify it.

Sorry, but I think that's very naive.

There have been attempts to clarify the law since Martin though. There
was a case not long ago where a man injured a pair of burglars with a
legally held shotgun. He was not prosecuted.

IMO if someone burgles your house, you should be able to do what the
hell
you like with the *******.

Most don't agree, particularly when it's a little kid doing the burglary.

Why do people treat kids as another species?

They don't. Most don't consider that killing them
when you catch them burglaring is a great idea tho.

You said "particularly", as though killing an adult isn't so bad.

They're human like us, and should be subject to the same stuff as us.

The law says otherwise and most agree with that aspect of the law.

State your reasoning for agreeing.

He's a criminal and should have no protection from you in law.

Even sillier than you usually manage with little kids particularly.

Why do you want to protect criminals?

Because little kids can be made to see the error
of their ways without killing them at times.

Yeah right, people who go to jail never reoffend.

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