whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote

You need to know whether or not the tree has any
special status or is listed even if it's in your own garden.

That isnt what was being discussed there.

You should just cut down trees even if you 'own' them.

That isnt what was being discussed.

You will be fined.

I just did, and wasn't.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...king-view.html

That isnt what was being discussed.

Just like most DIY jobs

Nothing like most DIY jobs in fact.

if you're stupid enough you can do virtually all jobs yourself.

Don't have to be stupid, just have a clue.

**** all are that stupid with the smaller trees.

What's a 'smaller tree'

The sort of tree that even a fool like you can cut down safely.

I'm not foolish enough to cut down a tree without researching teh job
first.

Only a fool would bother to 'research' cutting down a 6' tree.

Just like I was doing with my gas situation.

Different matter entirely. You have to be completely
stupid to injure yourself with the smaller trees.

You qualify.

In fact I have 2 chainsaws, two reciprocating saws,
a bow saw and various other saws that I can use too.

I don't need such things, so I tend not to own them.

Then even someone as stupid as you should be able
to work out that you can borrow one if you need one.

I don't even own a car,

More fool you.

pln, train or boat because I don;t need one if I do I'll hire one.

I have owned all but one of those, the train, and don't need to.

But a reciprocating saw is and you don't need chain mail pants.

But I don't need a reciprocating saw either, not
that it'd be very useful in cutting down most trees

You're wrong, as always, particularly if you don't like chainsaws.

but I've yet to need one in my life time so far.

Irrelevant to what is available if you need to cut down a tree.

H&S primarly aim is protectionfrom yourself and others.

I can do that without any H&S.

You just think you can,

I know I can, because I have been doing
it since before you were even born thanks.

Never had an accident that was
more than a minor nuisance either.

there's a differnece.

Nope, no one with even half a clue needs a pig ignorant
prat like you to tell them how to do anything safely.

Only an idiot would take no notice of them.

Anyone with even half a clue knows how to do things safely.

Plenty of idiots knbow how to do things corectly but prefer to cut
corners.

And plenty know how to do things safely and only cut
corners when the worst possibility is a minor nuisance.

Some are stupid enough to take on jobs
they have little or no understanding off.

And plenty more know a hell of a lot more
than you do and can work out where to get
what knowledge they don't have and can
do anything DIY wise fine.

Only an idiot would think that owning a reciprocating
saw gave them, the right to cut down any tree.

Only a flagrantly dishonest lying arsehole would
claim that anyone ever said anything like that.

I never used any scaffolding at all.

Niether have I.
But plenty of builders do.

**** all do with single story houses.

But any fool can build their own house, millions do.

**** all do all the design and building
work starting from a bare block of land.

millions bui

But if you havent the land uhnless youm can hang it
from a cloud you can;t build your own home in London

Wrong, as always.

Then prove it.

Have a look at the Grand Designs doco series sometime.

yes I have, but that's not the majority for people in the UK,

You didn't say anything about any majority with that stupid claim above.

it's a tiny minority most of whom have
a lot of money to throw at their project.

That's what the GRAND in the title is about, stupid.

How are you going to build a house without land to build it on ?

You demolish the wreck that is there already, stupid.

What wreck

The one on the land you want to build on, stupid.

and where ?

Where you want to build, stupid.

so where is this house ?

Australia.

What part

MIA.

that's not a part.

Wrong, as always.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murrumb...rrigation_Area

I have friends in Melborne and sydney,
so I can get info from them.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to use the net.

Nope. Varys a lot more than that soggy little island of yours does.

More people prefer this soggy little island.

Wrong, as always. We don't let very many of you fools in here.

adnI wouild have supplied them too, of
course if teh ingredinst were tottly safe

Corse it was, oil stain wont hurt you if you don't try drinking it.

Then why buy gloves for them,

I didn't.

you could have saved money.

Nope, because I didn't buy them any gloves.

I installed my own windows and doors by telling the
installers what I wanted. I don't call that DIY.

Letting the kids paint the fascia boards is still DIY, stupid.

Here we used to call that bob a job week.

Nope, I didn't pay them a cent, they kept asking
me what they could do, so I let them paint the fascia
boards because even little kids can't **** that up.

Plenty of eastern europeans doing those sort of jobs around here.
Buit perhaps getting kids to dop it cheaper is an advantage.

I didn't pay them a cent.

and come to think of it I should get my chimney looked
at, got any spare kids so I can DIY my own chimney ?

Nope, most of them are skinny enough, but for some odd
reason we don't let them fly around the world by themselves.

One of the little buggers did his own DIY with one of the
neighbour's houses. The main sewer line had been done
and left overnight for the council inspection the next day,
earthen ware pipes down the bulk of the block because
our sewer line goes down the back fence line inside the
block of one line of houses. Got in the trench and smashed
most of the pipes with a hammer he found lying around.

we tend to call that vandalism rather than DIY.

I didn't say it was DIY.

My ex-French flatmat(now living in australia) told me that
the term "do it yourself" if france refers to masterbating.

It does in plenty of other places too, including in here in just the last
week.

Ypou needed someone else to sign off the work you did.

Nope, to claim he did the work. He didn't.

that should have been a YES in that you DID
need someone else to sign off yuor work.

He didn't sign anything off, he just claimed he did the work.

So you couldn't sign it off yourself then why is that ?

Because that's what the law requires here.

Same here too. I too got a mate to do my tails

I didn't, I did all the electrical work myself.

but still needed soneone else to sign it off,

Nope.

why ?

Because that is what the law requires
here as I have told you repeatedly.

You still completely blotto ?

but I din;t claim I did it myself, I could have
done, but he had the knack of bending cables
and having a decent wire stripper and pliers.
So rather than getting quailfied and paying
the ~£400 or so fee I decided not to go DIY
because DIY wsas not cheaper than getting
someone in that was qualified.

Didn't cost me a cent to get someone qualified
to say he had done the work when he had not.

But you still couldn't do it.

Wrong, as always.

I'll try again why didn;t you sign the work off yuorself ?

Because that's what the law requires here.

So why didn't you get qualified so you could do it yourself ?

I've told you repeatedly that that isnt even possible here.

The ONLY way to get qualified is to spend YEARS as an apprentice.

Exactly, which is why most people don;t build houses themselves.

There is no legal requirement to be an apprentice
for years to build your own house.

Most people have other useful skills that they use to earn a living,

I did both.

some who can't earn enough to buy a
house choose to build their own house.

In the years I built my own house, I earned more
than the bloke running the place I worked at did,
essentially because the capital gain on your
primary residence is tax free here.

AND I was very well paid at work at the same time too.

AND I made a lot of money on the stock market at the same time too.

Even if you are one of the engineers that writes the wiring rules, there
is no way to be qualified to do the work without the apprenticeship.

It's a right royal scam designed to produce a closed shop.

Yes I know. It has uses though, in that if yuo have passed
the course yuo should know what you are doing,

You don't need to pass the course to know what you are doing.

Nothing I did had to be redone and it was all done
as the law required it be done except for the formal
qualification that I didn't have.

which is the sort of person I prefer working on my home.

I'm quite capable of reading the wiring rules
and working out how it needs to be done.

You arent even qualified after you have finished your
apprenticeship, that doesn't get you the electrical
contactor's license you need to do the work legally.

Again which is why it's a waste of resources to DIY
this type of job unless it's a main source of income.

You're wrong, as always.

In the years I built my own house, I earned more
than the bloke running the place I worked at did,
essentially because the capital gain on your
primary residence is tax free here.

AND I was very well paid at work at the same time too.

AND I made a lot of money on the stock market at the same time too.

There was no waste of resources what so ever.

Because I couldn't legally sign it off myself, fool.

You're too stupid to sign a bit of paper ?

I can't do that LEGALLY.

And I can;t work on my gas illegally either.

It is legal for you to do the gas work on your own house.

If I wanted to do my own gas work I'd
need to dom the course at the very least.

Wrong, as always. Some course isnt the only way
to get the knowledge required to do it safely.

doing that and paying for it isn;t an
effecinet use of my time or money.

And when I just read the wiring rules and did what
was required was a VERY efficient use of my time
and money instead of paying someone to do it.

In spades with the whole house.

Then why the **** didn't you get qualified ?

Not interested in being an apprentice for years
and then taking even longer to qualify as an
electrical contractor.

Me niether or a gas contractor, or as an HGV driver to deliver bricks and
RSG and everything else that would help me build a house as a DIY project.

For me and teh vast majority it's more effcint to buy a ready built house.

Yes, most people are too stupid to be able to build a house from scratch.

Doesn't mean that everyone is tho.

Maybe you are that stupid. I'm not, it made
a hell of a lot more sense to have someone
who is legally qualified to say they did the work.