On Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:14:20 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote

I thought you also need to know what you are doing.

Depends on where the tree is.

Well it would normamly be on your own property
you just can't go on to someone elses land and
chop down a tree because you feel like it.

That's an entirely separate matter to what we were clearly
discussing, whether you need to know what you are doing.





There are plenty of trees on your own property where
you don't need to know what you are doing to cut it down.

You need to know whether or not the tree has any special status or is listed even if it's in your own garden. I do know a tree surgeon that has refused to do a job after checking with the local council.

https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...28/2127793.pdf

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/gen...judgementgives


Plenty of youtube videos of people ssaving money by cutting
therio own trees down and it ends up on their house or car.

And vastly more who managed to cut down
the tree without doing anything like that.

and even more getting a pro in to do it.

**** all are that stupid with the smaller trees.

What's a 'smaller tree'

Small than what ?




I lend mine to any of my mates that need to do that.

I lend my mates tools too.
Although I haven't a 30ft ladder.
But I can lend them a pruning cutter.

Ypu might also wan the PPE such as chain mail
trousers and other equipment the tree surgeons use.

Not if you use the less aggressive tools.

Junior hacksaw ?



Just saw one on one of the local facebook buy sell
swap groups this morning for just $20.

buying a saw doesn;t make you compendent to do the job.

This particular saw is a reciprocating saw that
even someone as stupid as you could use.

You don't need chain mail pants to use it either.

I don;t need chain mail pants to use my junior hack saw
or the laser cutter downstairs.
neither are very useful for cutting trees.


But of course you could break the H&S rules I suppose.

I broke no H&S rules except that in the summer I chose
to do it in just shorts and thongs, not even a shirt.

That's just one of the things that make you an idiot.
Nope, worked fine.

H&S isn't about whether or not something works fine.

It is for all but fools like you.

H&S primarly aim is protectionfrom yourself and others.

Only an idiot would take no notice of them.



So you didn;t help him then ?

I did on the design choices, how to use subcontractors
to do the work he didn't want to do himself, etc etc etc.

Did you use subcontractors on your house ?


With another one, when the local council claimed that
the smallest bedrooms for the kids were smaller than
were allowed under the regulations, showed him the
bit in the building regulations where it said that built
in wardrobes are counted when calculating the size of
the room. That one was the one where we both worked
on both houses when more than one pair of hands was
needed with the roof beams etc.

Well there's a number of people that can't read simple instructions and follow them, there are some that cliam to read and uunderstand but igmnore what's written.
That's why I decided to get someone in to do the gas when the warning notice that was left with me said.

To the user of the gas :- This gas equipment MUST not be used.

It is an offence to continue to use an unsafe applience or installation until it has been repaired and tested by a 'gas safe' registared installer.


But any fool can build their own house, millions do.

**** all do all the design and building
work starting from a bare block of land.

millions bui

But if you havent the land uhnless youm can hang it
from a cloud you can;t build your own home in London

Wrong, as always.

Then prove it.
How are you going to build a house without land to build it on ?

I get it you built a tree house.


so where is this house ?

Australia.

What part or is all australia the same.



So what did you paint your house with.

A roller with the blocks. Paint brush with the RHS.

Got the neighbour's little kids to paint the oregon
fascias with wood stain with paint brushes with the
timber all on trestles on the ground. Mission Brown,
little white kids turned into little brown kids |-)

So didn't DIY unless of course telling them what stain to use.
I'd have told them to use gloves adnI wouild have supplied them too, of course if teh ingredinst were tottly safe I might not have bothered with gloves, but just to stop the mums moaning about the mess their kids were in would be enough for me to promt the wearing or gloves and overalls, perhasp others would want the childn painting naked.
I installed my own windows and doors by telling the installers what I wanted.
I don't call that DIY.


I don't give a flying red **** what some H&S regulation requires.
I do what makes sense.
I got a licensed electrician to claim he had done the work.
So that was a lie then wasnt; it.

Ypou needed someone else to sign off the work you did.

Nope, to claim he did the work. He didn't.

So you couldn't sign it off yourself then why is that ?

Because that's what the law requires here.

Same here too. I too got a mate to do my tails but I din;t claim I did it myself, I could have done, but he had the knack of bending cables and having a decent wire stripper and pliers.
So rather than getting quailfied and paying the ~£400 or so fee I decided not to go DIY because DIY wsas not cheaper than getting someone in that was qualified.



I'll try again why didn;t you sign the work off yuorself ?

Because that's what the law requires here.

So why didn't you get qualified so you could do it yourself ?
Even though I have a HND equiv in electronics with computer studies a 4 year course


if DIY is cheaper.

No if about it.




Or why did you get him in when you could have done it youself.

Because I couldn't legally sign it off myself, fool.

You're too stupid to sign a bit of paper ?


Are you too stupid is that the reason.

Because I couldn't legally sign it off myself, fool.

Then why the **** didn't you get qualified ?