On Friday, 24 October 2014 12:13:05 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
whisky-dave wrote


We can search property list to see what's avaible so do it.

Don't need to. There are plenty of examples
of people doing it in the TV house reno series.

you're right I've seen them, the last one the copuple had about 1/2 million to spend on renovating a farm. The average couple looking for their fist home are unlikely to have that sort of money.



I did 5 years ago when a friends was looking for a
place to DIY. Threr's was nothing he could afford

Irrelevant to what others can afford.

It was relivent to them.
That's what yuo can;t understand.



in the end he brought a canel boat for about £3k,
there was nothing for under £15K in the UK.

Plenty can afford more than that.

and even more can't, most of teh homeless can;t.



But if you really knew what you were talking about it'd be quite easy
for you to post a link to an affortable property suitable for DIY.

Plenty can afford more than £15K.

The they can put a deposoit down then can;t they.


JUST that a run down dump is obviously going
to be cheaper to buy and DIY than buying the
same thing which isnt a run down dump.

No **** sherlock.

So your stupid claim that it isnt possible by individuals
has blown up in your faced and covered you with black
stuff, again.

No it hasn't it's the number of them that can.



There you go again moron.

We'll see...



OK if it's NOT for the majority you still need
to find a property for someone to do DIY on.

Plenty of those.

care to prove it, although there's one here.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...-fort-for-sale



Even someone as stupid as you should have
noticed that there are quite a few places that
can be significantly improved with some DIY.

Most places can be improved by DIY but you still have to be able to afford them first. Most can;t even get a mortgage for a well maintained property.
You try gettign a mortgage on something that needs a lot of 'DIY' then the mortgage company is unlikely to give you a mortgage.



And if the non run down ones are out of your price bracket, a run
down one that you can DIY may well be a viable proposition for some.

It might be but unlikely for a DIY person,

Bull****. Its perfectly possible to update the kitchen
and bathrooms etc and even get real radical and
paint the place etc. Even someone as stupid as
you should be able to manage that if you weren't
completely blotto all the time.

All ready done it, but I needed money to do it, and you need to own the property.



that is the point.

Like hell it is. DIY aint rocket science, stupid.

Depends on what sort of DIY doesn;t it.


Bull****. There's **** all skill involved.

There's quite a bit.....

Bull****.

The why can you find sucha place.


Why can't you find such a place.


Try that again in english instead of gobbledegook
when not completely blotto, as you always are.

Well what's your , are yuo just pethetic and stupifd by default.




I did in fact designed and built my own house from
scratch and did virtually all the work myself as well.

Well done then. How long did it take

Couple of years.

Most of us are working for a living, we can't take a couple of years off.


and how much money did you need to start.

Not a cent. I did in fact have quite a lot of money
but was getting a very decent return on that in
the stockmarket and decided to see how feasible
it would be to do it entirely with borrowed money
because I was getting a better return on my funds
than I had to pay to borrow it.

so a totally differnt situation from most.
That's why you haven;t got a clue.


Most people at least need land to build on.

And in my case that cost me the grand total of $3750
and I didn't even have to pay that up front, just had to
pay it off to the govt.

What country was this in ?





Its certainly true that more are more likely to have
their windows replaced professionally than doing
that themselves tho.

Well these all those regulations you have to check for,

There are **** all regulations involved with windows.

you know nothing.

Easy to claim...

yes, you continiuly prove it.

Bull**** with windows.

You realy don't know much do you.
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/bui.../partf/windows

what about safety glass for certain areas and how high barried need to be on openable windows.



So why not prove me wrong by siting a suitable property.

There are hordes of those where buying a run down dump
and DIYing it makes a hell of a lot more sense than buying
the same thing that someone else had turned it from a run
down dump into a decent modern house.

Most people don't have that option.

How about you site such a property ......