On Sun, 05 Oct 2014 14:09:01 -0700, Todd wrote:

On 10/05/2014 10:56 AM, Oren wrote:
"... accidentally shot himself in the hand while cleaning his gun ..."
is bull crap. How about calling negligence? That's what is was.

Hi Oren,

The first thing I do when I clean my gun(s) is verify
it is unloaded. Remove the magazine, pull back the
slide, look down the magazine hole for light, look down the
barrel for light. I do this regardless of what I think
the state of the weapon is. Then I lay it down on my
table and get to it.

When someone hands me their weapon, I do the same
thing. Sort of like a ritual. They do the same thing
when I hand it back. And I never put my finger in the
trigger guard, unless I intend to pull the trigger.
(Dry firing is bad manners, unless the owner tells
you to go ahead and feel the trigger pull, etc..)

Is it just me, or when you hear "cleaning his gun" do you
wonder what really happened? From your LEO days, do
your alarm bells go off?

-T

I'm always cautious. I've seen an officer that never used the safety.
His shotgun (870 Remington) was in the rear window gun rack (pickup
truck) with a round CHAMBERED (wrong). The weapon fired one time and
blew part of the passenger side cab out. Another time, one officer was
driving around with his barrel sticking out the window and the shotgun
discharged, pellets went over the fence into the prison. The fool
could have killed somebody. He was silent on the radio, I heard the
discharge, called the boss - "Hey Boss, you may want to visit the
Perimeter Patrol, he may have something to tell you." I don't trust
anybody until I inspect the weapon and check it personally. There are
other stories, too. Farkin' government workers! They should have been
transferred to the Postal Service
--
"I have a very strict gun control policy: if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it," -- Clint Eastwood