On 03/17/2014 07:47 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:27:44 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:20:38 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 13:59:29 -0400, Phil Hobbs
wrote:
On 3/16/2014 1:39 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Anyone have an accurate I-V curve for an NE-2 neon indicator lamp?
(I think it's time I applied TANH to it ;-)
...Jim Thompson
Of course tanh is single-valued, unlike the I-V of a NE2.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Unless you are clever, like me :-}
Look back over my piece-wise-linear curve-fitting posts, using TANH,
with all derivatives existing and finite.
In this particular case, as I envision it, there are not even any
break-points involved.
What I seek right now is a reasonably accurate I-V curve.
I can't tell if you're being purposely coy, or if you've missed Phil's
point.
Gas discharge devices like neon lamps have hysteresis: when they're on,
they'll conduct at a lower voltage than their turn-on voltage.
So a simple I-V curve doesn't cut it, unless you're only trying to
simulate the device in the on state, and leaving the user out to dry for
figuring out turn-on and turn-off behavior.
Oh, ye of little faith...
http://www.analog-innovations.com/NeonModeling_1_First_Pass_of_Concept.pdf
A single line equation, 91 characters long, counting every ()*/+- and
alpha-numeric... Algebraic/TANH ;-)
...Jim Thompson
Well, it's got the right number of bumps, anyway, but greatly
overestimates the current in the low-voltage region--that curve should
be in the picoamps or below until the bulb actually strikes. There's no
way you can push 20 uA through an unlit NE2.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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