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On Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:11:23 PM UTC-6, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Tom Gardner" Mars@Tacks wrote in message

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On 2/26/2014 9:20 PM, RogerN wrote:


"Tom Gardner" wrote in message


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Thanks for all the replies and knowledge. My other battery


charger is a


one pound electronic machine. It works OK, supplies 2, 6 and 12


amps and


has all sorts of buttons and lights! What it won't do is charge a


totally


dead battery...thus repairing the old Craftsman. It displays:


"BAD


BATTERY" and I have to hook-up jumper cables from another vehicle


to get a


few percent of a charge to get the electronic charger to work.




I also confess I don't know enough about electronics. Is there a


good book


to start with that isn't too stupid yet not over my head? I think


I can


still learn stuff.




Comparing to piping, hydraulics, fluidics, pneumatics...




Volts are pressure


Amps is flow


Resistance is opposition to flow, a restriction in the line.


Power (watts) is the product of flow and pressure.




Rectifiers are like check valves.


capacitors are like storage tanks, accumulators or air tanks.


transistors are like pilot operated valves




AC would be kind of like a piston pump with no check valves, the


power goes


one way and then the other.


So. using this back and forth fluid could drive a piston one size


that is


connected to a different size piston, either increasing pressure


and


decreasing volume, or increasing volume and decreasing pressure.


That would


be kind of like a transformer, it takes alternating current to make


it work.


So if you transformed your pumps force and pressure, it could be


changed


after the transformer by adding check valves at that point.




The old fashioned battery charger transforms the line voltage to a


lower


voltage at a higher current. Then a rectifier causes it to flow


only one


way into the battery.




Magnetic field going through a wire induces a voltage in the wire,


not sure


what that would compare to in hydraulics. The magnetic field


inducing


voltage has to do with transformers, motors, inductors, antenna,


and other.




RogerN










Good analogies Roger!




The water analogy of pressure = voltage, flow = current is useful when

you are first learning about Direct Current circuits, but it falls

apart quickly for Alternating Current because moving water's inertia

isn't the same as inductance, and we don't have the hands-on intuitive

experience with AC reversing flows that we do with DC garden hoses.



The analogy that helps me with AC is imagining the pistons and

crankshaft of an engine. The height of one piston represents the

constantly changing voltage of one phase of the power line. If it was

an equally spaced three-cylinder radial engine the other two pistons

would be the other phases. The three pistons (voltages) combine their

push in sequence to force a steady circular rotation of the

crankshaft, which was Tesla's inspiration for introducing AC to spin

motors without needing troublesome brushes.



This makes more sense if you understand sines and cosines.



Residential single-phase 120V is a one-cylinder engine and 240V is an

opposed twin, like a BMW motorcycle. Since they can hang at top dead

center they need a temporary circular push to start in the right

direction, the reason why single phase AC motors need starting

circuits but three phase ones don't.



.jsw


http://lpsa.swarthmore.edu/Analogs/E...alAnalogs.html