"Pete C." wrote in news:52b1d9be$0$47869$862e30e2
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Doug Miller wrote:

"Pete C." wrote in
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Doug Miller wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote in
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On 12/17/2013 11:24 PM, Pete C. wrote:

Have you looked at the actual stats? I believe NFPA has some
good ones showing 4,000+ residential gas explosions per
year.


I'd sure like to see a URL. I did a search, including NFPA
web site, and can't find that stat.


You can't find something that isn't there....

Try again:

http://www.nfpa.org/~/media/files/re...heets/gasfacts
heet.pdf

*You* try again.

Where does that say "4000+ residential gas explosions per year",
Pete? Nowhere.

Because that claim is bull****. That document shows 3380 *fires*
(not explosions) in a *five year* period. Not 4000 explosions. Not
per year.

Like I said: you can't something that isn't there.

Are you a personal injury lawyer, by any chance?

They don't differentiate fires with or without explosions.

And so you assume that *all* of those fires were "explosions".

Bull****.

Look at the details, specifically:
-- "... in which natural gas was the type of material first ignited", a category which clearly
includes fires that occur while cooking on a gas stove
-- "Leading equipment involved: Stove"
-- "Leading area of origin: Kitchen"

All of which leads to the obvious conclusion that the problem is careless cooking, not the
fuel used for doing so.

Obvious, that is, to anyone who doesn't have an a priori bias and an axe to grind.

As well all
know, most gas incidents start with a leak

Bull**** again. As CLEARLY indicated in the document that YOU cited, most residential gas-
related fires started as cooking fires, not leaks. That document doesn't say anything at all
about leaks.

Or explosions.

and it takes some time before
the gas finds an ignition source,

You mean like the cook turning on the burner? That's included in the category of "natural
gas [is] the material first ignited."

so it is quite reasonable to presume
that most of those incidents included an explosion of some size.

No, it is not at all reasonable to assume that, for the reason I just explained above. And
that's all it is: an assumption on your part, completely unsupported. That document says
NOTHING about explosions, Pete. Nothing at all. It's talking about *fires*.

Your claim of 4000+ residential gas explosions per year is complete bull****, totally without
foundation. As I noted in an earlier post, if the rate were that high, we'd be seeing one about
every 2.5 weeks here in the Indianapolis area. The last gas *explosion* I remember
hearing about was about a year ago -- a deliberately set insurance fraud. If there really
were over 4000 explosions per year in the U.S., we'd have had at least twenty more since
then.

That. Just. Doesn't. Happen.