Ignoramus28714 wrote:

On 2013-12-04, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:14:14 -0600, Ignoramus19407
wrote:

On 2013-12-03, F George McDuffee wrote:
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:22:47 -0800, mike
wrote:

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Wages are determined by supply and demand.
Businesses raise wages until they get all the jobs filled.
As long as immigrants, legal or illegal, feel that they're
better off at McDonalds than their previous job, the wages
wont' rise.
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Thanks for the explication/demonstration of how
unrestricted/illegal immigration "short-circuits" the tacit
assumptions required for the "free market" and law of supply
and demand to benignly / productively operate, as envisioned
by the neo-cons and "Washington Consensus" fanatics, but
which operationally results in a Kamikaze race to the
bottom. FWIW -- this also applies for the higher paying
jobs such as programmers and engineers, e.g. H1b.



I do not think that a McDonalds franchisee can hire an illegal
immigrant.

Some franchises probably would if they could get away with it.

A lot of people could, and do, hire illegal aliens. But a McDonalds
franchisee cannot, they are overseen very heavily.


Additionally, illegal immigrants are people too and they need to eat.

Not HERE they don't, damnit! They can get legal or get lost. mumble,
mumble LEGAL immigrants can eat here all they please.

But they are people too.

And their countries of origin are countries too and they need to get
back to them. Follow the rules and come here legally. If you don't like
the rules it doesn't give you license to ignore them.