On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 15:30:57 -0600, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 11:22:47 -0800, mike
wrote:

snip
Wages are determined by supply and demand.
Businesses raise wages until they get all the jobs filled.
As long as immigrants, legal or illegal, feel that they're
better off at McDonalds than their previous job, the wages
wont' rise.
snip

Thanks for the explication/demonstration of how
unrestricted/illegal immigration "short-circuits" the tacit
assumptions required for the "free market" and law of supply
and demand to benignly / productively operate, as envisioned
by the neo-cons and "Washington Consensus" fanatics, but
which operationally results in a Kamikaze race to the
bottom. FWIW -- this also applies for the higher paying
jobs such as programmers and engineers, e.g. H1b.


But one of the major reasons for the U.S. encouraging immigration was
to have a source of low paid labor. Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire,
for example killed 146 people, mainly immigrants, the canals and
railroads were built with, largely, Irish immigrant workers.

In addition, mandating wages based on local conditions effects
international trade to the extent that I can think of no product
actually manufactured in the U.S. that is sold here in Thailand.
--
Cheers,

John B.