On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 22:50:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 22:52:02 -0500, Ignoramus32615
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On 2013-09-07, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 15:43:41 -0500, Ignoramus32615
wrote:
On 2013-09-07, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 14:28:57 -0500, Ignoramus32615
wrote:
On 2013-09-07, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 09:39:19 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 09:58:28 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:
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If you want a third world society and culture, create a
third world economy. If you want a third word economy, pay
third world wages... Unka' George
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Although the above has been dismissed by several posters,
one of the characteristics of a third world economy is the
large unofficial or underground economy and increasing use
of barter.
The following article seems to indicate a large and growing
unofficial or underground economy in the US.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-e...175850505.html
Interesting. Thanks!
Only recently, I realized that there are very many people who are
working "unofficially". They are paid in cash and transact in
cash. Examples are small time buyers and sellers, purveyors of scrap
metal, household services like lawn and babysitting etc.
The reasons why they do it are as follows:
1) Illegal aliens (who need to eat like everyone else)
2) People on unemployment who supplement their unemployment
money with cash income
3) People on disability
4) Tax cheats
Even though those people choose to stay "under the radar", they,
for the most part, contribute to the economy and our well being.
i
You just found this out? The Underground Economy has been building
for decades and has broadened widely since 2007 and the start of the
Great Depression 2.
I was not thinking much about that before, when I was a computer guy
only.
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Want to see how bad the economy is?
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst...052251109.html
http://longisland.craigslist.org/zip/4050422633.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/f.../photos/albums
These boats will cost you 10x to get them to working condition...
i
Really? They all appear to be in working condition. Do they need
some TLC? probably.
I bought this a few weeks ago for $200
https://picasaweb.google.com/104042282269066802602/FJ1
Yes, that is about a $200 boat. Is there a sail with it? Have you
priced a new sail for it yet :-)
No issues with the boat other than it needed to be polished out. Cost
$5 for the polish and 30 minutes to do it. The included
trailer..that cost $45 for bearings and caps and grease seals. But
the boat was quite nice. Sails very nicely.
As for the first 2 boats listed...what was wrong with them? Do you
know about either of them? Or are you simply guessing?
A buddy of mine bought for $1000..a 42' Morgan. He bought it from a
widow and after having it inspected and outfitted...has
curcumnavigated the planet over a 5 yr period of time. Outfitting
included a new freshwater maker, copious amounts of food, a hidden
weapons locker and a bigger water tank. And thats just about it
A thousand for a 42' Morgan isn't a good deal it is outright theft.
But I'd guess that he spent a bit more before he set out across the
briny. Most people will replace a bunch of rigging, maybe some new
sails, probably an extra anchor or two....
I wonder whether your mate knew that the gun in the hidden locker
would rate the death sentence in places like Singapore or Malaysia?
Are there boats on that Yahoo group that need a lot of work? Yes there
are. Are there boats on that Yahoo group that need the furniture
polished only? Yes there are. Id snag the first one..but I dont have
the money for monthly slip fees and will have to stay with a
trailerable swing keel boat. Im looking at a Venture 17 along with a
Contender...both for a grand total of $400 and include (1) trailer.
The Venture 17 needs 1.5 sheets of 3/8 marine plywood to refit the
cabin..and the Contender needs (1) sail ($125)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ItqizpBHk0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjLlR5K_6qw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR4aGQ7L1kY
Venture 17 cabin restoration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQt6yZYtDmM
The sister to my current Ensenada 20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCwV4yHPqow
FJ sailing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5G5tTNIJkg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CizUua-xjzc
Like my AMF Force 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7yXpy5K10Q
Laser (almost a Force 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7EktV5FYGk
And of course..we have a worlds record....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2boayPZ3GbE
And another one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP985PjMGts
And of course..the Sail Rocket...65.45 knots in 25 knots of wind..
74.55 mph
http://www.youtube.cthe cardinal number that is the sum of one and one and oneom/watch?v=sZVIj5TUSKE
"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)
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Cheers,
John B.