On Mar 25, 12:25*pm, whoyakidding's ghost
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:41:36 -0400, Ed Huntress
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:39:17 -0700, whoyakidding's ghost
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:38:25 -0400, Ed Huntress
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On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 08:22:01 -0700, whoyakidding's ghost
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:36:01 -0400, Ed Huntress
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:22:09 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:42:52 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 01:23:46 -0500, "RogerN"
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"Gunner Asch" *wrote in message
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 22:14:43 -0400, wrote:
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*So you have an expensive hobby.. * I can see it if you are a target
shooter - but it's not target shooters that are causing the run on
ammo. It's nut-cases figuring they need enough ammo to run a private
or civil war for 4 years again.
Oh....like the US government, who bought 1.6 Billion rounds of ammo?
Enough to fight a war in Iraq for the next 26 yrs.
Gunner
Interesting:
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/0...lets-and-targe...
Law enforcement training to kill civilians, DHS buying 1.6 Billion rounds,
DHS buying ~3,000 armored assault vehicles for use in the USA. *Why would
anyone be suspicious?
RogerN
With nut-cases hording guns and ammo the government mabee has reason
to be conserned??
It's -not- nutcases, clare, it's us normal people...
(Irony meter just pinned and bent the needle...)
It's all about perspective. Jim Carrey does a nice job laying it out.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/043...and-with-jim-c....
Ohmigod, that's good. What's just as funny is the comments. He really
plucked some gun nutz' strings. Strings are what they have where
normal people have a sense of humor.
The gun nutz absolutely hate it when you tell them that you know what
they're thinking and it ain't pretty. I love that they're running up
the cost of their paranoia while claiming that they're merely sensible
people. Considering the appalling stats about consumer debt, it would
be useful to poll feverish ammo buyers and ask them what they gave up
in order to fund their purchase. You know it's going to be things like
making more than the minimum payment on their credit card, health
insurance, kids' dental work, etc. Then ask them if they consider
themselves responsible, as if the results would be any less than 100%
yes. It's ****ing amazing, but I guess we should be getting used to
that. I couldn't believe it when a majority thought that Iraq was at
the root of 9-11, or had WMD, and that invading them made sense.
Couldn't the idiots learn something from their mistaken notions? Of
course not, because here we are again with yet another example of
national stupidity being played out by largely the same group of
mental midgets. No matter how many times they're proven helpless at
logic, they continue to believe they're intelligent and sensible.
I think you're attaching too much importance to logic and sense. It's
a cultural divide, one we've always had but which has grown hardened
and shrill in recent decades.
Bill Keller just wrote an editorial about it, "States Gone Wild":
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/op...-gone-wild.htm...
Of course there's lots going on. I think if I had to pin it down to
one root cause it would be the trend towards every man for himself.
But in order for someone to think that their personal right to "feel"
safe should take precedence over society's right to promote genuine
safety, the thinker has to be illogical. You can see it whenever the
gun nutz are faced with _any_ restrictions, no matter how reasonable.
They say there's "no such thing" (idiotic). They cry "second
amendment" (wrong and stupid) and "gun grabber" (paranoia). As Clare
explained, US restrictions will never be as tough as they are in
Canada already. And yet that hasn't resulted in wholesale "grabbing."
This is very simple stuff that even the dim witted ought to be able to
understand. But they prefer to put whatever whim is in their head (and
or off a crazy blog) over common sense and responsibility. Ironically,
they frequently claim to be patriots at the same time they're
advocating revolution. Which brings me back to the lack of reason.
They're afraid of losing their ability to fight a possible war with
their duly elected government, so they call for starting the war
instead. In the worst cases, we actually have people claiming they'd
rather have revolution than restrict felons' right to own firearms, or
have reduced magazine size or universal background checks. Those sorts
of positions aren't just illogical, they're insane no matter the
culture.
"Of course there's lots going on. I think if I had to pin it down to
one root cause it would be the trend towards every man for himself."
I don't think this cuts to the core of the matter at all. I think it's
KiddingNoOne not dealing with reality as per usual.
The core problem is frustration on many Americans parts that their
government no longer cares about their needs or their rights on topics
like immigration, taxes, crime, jobs, etc.
The wants, needs and rights of the middle class has been decimated and
many Americans are very angry that they feel their government has sold
them out and that they have no voice.
With each passing year many Americans feel more and more hopelessness
that things aren't getting better and are getting worse... the last
thing many of them seem to feel they have is their right to gun
ownership and it's their last stand. It's unfortunate that many
Americans don't understand what the problems are and what they need to
do about it. Guns aren't the answer. Organized protesting against big
Wall St. banks and large multinational conglomerates that **** all
over middle class Americans is the answer. Before this can happen
Americans need to figure out who to effectively target to get the
changes they want.