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On Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:22:52 -0800 (PST), klem kedidelhopper
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I have two pots lines in my house. One is business class and the other
is residential. As far as I can tell the one difference between the
two is that the phone company gets to charge me twice as much for the
business line.

A few years ago before we went to DSL we had dialup service here. On
the business line I was never able to get any better than a 26K
connection. I never really investigated this and with no audible
aberrations on the line this was never a problem as we just used the
dialup on the residential line instead. On that line we usually could
get a 45K connection and sometimes even 50.

I recently dropped the DSL service and will likely drop the
residential service as well. We went back to dialup with the same
provider. The business line speed problem noted years ago is still
there. I've dialed up the telco's "quiet line" to listen to both lines


What's the quiet line? Does every phone company have this? Does
Verizon?

off hook, (while we still have the residential line) and they both
sound clean. I plan to go to the interface to look at this but we now
have a big storm coming so for now the 26K will suffice. If plugging
directly into the interface yields a good (45K) connection on the slow
line then I realize that the problem is then in the premises and I'll
have to troubleshoot that.

My question is if the problem is in the premises wiring what could be
the most likely cause of something like this? As I previously
mentioned I can't "hear" any problem but of course that doesn't mean
that one doesn't exist. Before I start dismantling my inside wiring it
would be nice if I had a clue as to what I was looking for. The phone
company by the way has been no help with this.


I have little experience and almost no idea if this relates to you,
but I have a story. And it's about DSL, not even dial-up. So for
that reason too, maybe it has no application to you. But it's a good
story.

I signed up for that 5 years ago, and using some webpage to measure my
speed, was never getting nearly as fast as I should Also, I have an
indoor wiring problem that comes and goes, and so I had run a wire
from the outside interface, up the front of the house and straight to
a simple splitter, DSL and telephone.

This meant I could only close the window and storm window maybe 95%.
I was using the kind of 4 conductor wire used to connect phones to the
wall.

To close the window 100%, I bought special, thin, flat phone wire,
from the phone section of Home Depot, meant for places like this,
between windows and the window frame. .

A few ways later, my phone continued to work, and the web radio
worked, but newsgroups, email, and web did not. I was stumped, and
the Verizon DSL guy come over. He said there is mor e than one level
of the phone line not working, and of DSL not working.. So the fact
that the phone and the web radio worked, didn't mean DSL was fully
working. He said the wire going out the window was too thin. (Or
maybe it had to do with too thin considering my aluminmum window
frames (both surrounding the glass and lining the window opening.

So now, for the last year, I use the kind of 4-conductor phone wire
that people put inside walls, stiffer and thicker,, and my download
speed has tripled and stayed tripled. .

(I'm still not using the thickest or stiffest wire used for that, but
I'm at the speed they promised me, so I suppose going to even thicker
wire won't help

I used other methods to keep the cold air from coming in the window
around the wire.

If anyone has any ideas that they would share I would be extremely
grateful. Lenny