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Default Background checks for gun purchases

On 01/10/2013 06:06 PM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
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"crime of passoin/hate/lost girlfriend"


Here is some justifiable homicide data for the year 2005, there is
probably more up to date info but I doubt there has been a tremendous
change since that time.

I'm making the assumtion that the overwhelming majority of these
homicides are were by firearms although probably at least a few of
them were by other means.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/homicide/justify.cfm

Total including police action for that year appears to be about 550
and is it about 200 when you include only citizens.

Total gun deaths for that year were about 31,000 of which around 1/2
were suicides which leaves us with a total of about 15,000

In other words, out of the approximately 14,650 citizens that were
killed with a gun by another citizen, only 200 of them were
justifiable.

In that same year, there were 789 unintentional firearms deaths in
the US:

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states

So, if we round this number upwards to 200, it becomes clearly
evident that on average, your garden variety, law-abiding gun owner
is statistically about 4 times more likely to cause an accidental
death than he is to shoot some a bad guy in a case of justifiable
homicide.

Below is a paper covering domestic violence statistics for the year
2002:

bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/fvs02.pdf

It can be seen that about 22% of murders in that year were acts of
domestic violence and that firearms were used in around 1/2 or 11% of
of them and so it should become fairly evident that your odds
shooting someone in an act of justifiable homicide as opposed to
being shot by or shooting a family member or there occurring a
suicide in the family are pretty darned slim considering that if
memory serves me, justifiable homicides including police action only
constitute around 2% of total gun deaths.


Nice effort, but you're lecturing to primitive idiots! Conservatives are
simply NOT equipped to absorb information like that.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds

"Peering inside the brain with MRI scans, researchers at University
College London found that self-described conservative students had a
larger amygdala than liberals. The amygdala is an almond-shaped
structure deep in the brain that is active during states of fear and
anxiety. Liberals had more gray matter at least in the anterior
cingulate cortex, a region of the brain that helps people cope with
complexity."

"The liberal party is generally more intellectual and the conservative
party is more anti-intellectual."