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"Tom Del Rosso" wrote in message ...

flipper wrote:
I don't find it amusing at all and it's a standard left wing tactic to
simply redefine the language so it's impossible to rationally discuss
anything. The very name of modern, so called, 'liberalism' is language
theft because the word comes from the Latin liber, or to put it in
plain English "free," as in liberty. But the left are statists,
suborning the individual to the 'collective' (meaning them), the
antithesis of liberty.


Liberal in the context of philosophy means free-thinker. Their opionons
are defined by thinking, because those opinions are the inevitable result
of thinking, because they are "correct." Thinking cannot lead to a
different point of view.


Veritas vos liberabit. And the truth, veritas, is obtained by free thinking,
not by chanting dogmatic mantras. One of the only sure bets is that things
will change, and "liberals" are champions of change. True, beneficial,
conservatism should just act as a cautionary force to guard against reckless
abandon, and not as a stone wall intent on blocking progress and ignoring
(or actively denying) new evidence and ideas. Liberty can only survive on a
foundation of truth and reason, and not on blind faith or trust in
leadership, especially when the motives of those in power, or seeking it,
are personal (or corporate) greed and selfishness.

The freedom of individuals in a connected society is necessarily limited to
that which does not harm the "collective" or its members. The present
libertarian and conservative Republican factions seek to ignore or deny the
deleterious effect of their selfishly motivated programs where the rights of
the (elite and privileged) individual are imagined to trump the welfare and
very survival of the civilization which provides the framework for their
ability to exist and benefit from that which is provided by others. Free
thinkers recognize and respect this, and work in cooperation with others to
achieve a common goal.

Paul