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Default CA accelerator discoloration

On 12/7/2012 2:10 PM, Stanley Schaefer wrote:
On Dec 7, 12:17 pm, Tim wrote:
On Fri, 07 Dec 2012 06:15:54 -0600, Pete Keillor wrote:
On Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:59:23 -0600,
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On 12/6/2012 9:00 PM, wrote:
I am gluing some copper to wood with CA. Anyone knows how to get rid
of the white/blue/green discoloration that develops with an
accelerator? It disappears when washed with 99% isopropanol or acetone
but reappears after drying.


I understand that there may be a way to avoid getting the white stuff
by not using so much of the accelerator but is there any way to get
rid of it *after* the fact?


Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC


Yeah, don't use the accelerator.


What he said. Accelerator active ingredient is N,N-dimethyl
p-toluidene, a tertiary amine. Amines react with copper to form
quaternary amine complexes. In other words, they eat copper.


Pete Keillor


Or at least go at it knowing that you're going to need to use a polishing
compound that's going to actually remove the material.

I wouldn't expect a CA to wood bond to be secure in the long run. If you
need strength, I think epoxy would be better, or maybe contact cement.

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I'd use a silicone adhesive(or screws). Wood moves, copper doesn't, a
rigid bond is going to shear. Copper isn't going to stay shiny unless
you coat it with lacquer or wax.

Stan



Which is why I keep recommending any of the many flavors of Goop.
Good strong flexible bond, cheap, easy cleanup.

For a job like this, Plumbers Goop - very low viscosity will make
for a smooth thin film.

Excellent bond.