On Nov 28, 7:07*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 07:08:33 -0800 (PST), Harry K
wrote:





On Nov 27, 9:21*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 20:51:28 -0800 (PST), Harry K
wrote:

On Nov 27, 5:36*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:32:11 -0800 (PST), Harry K
wrote:

On Nov 26, 3:54*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:08:36 -0800 (PST), Harry K
wrote:

On Nov 26, 4:53*am, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-25-2012 23:19, Harry K wrote:

On Nov 24, 12:01 pm, Wes Groleau wrote:
On 11-24-2012 10:38, Pete C. wrote:

And if you are in a place that is far from the next exit, get as far off
the road as possible, turn off your lights so other vehicles don't
follow your tail lights thinking that's where the road is, and get out
of your vehicle and further away, preferably beyond guardrails or other
barriers.

OK for fog; not OK for blizzard.

Why so? *You are just as likely to get smashed in low visibility in a
blizzard as in a fog..
Of course plow berms, etc may prevent getting off the road.

What are you _more_ likely to get in a blizzard if you get away from
your vehicle?

--
Wes Groleau

* * “There ain't nothin' in this world that's worth being a snot over.”
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * — Larry Wall

WTF is sthat supposed to mean? Care to put it in a form that has some
logic? *And why is it necessary to 'get away from my vehicle" if I am
well off the roadway?

I am repeating the same information you can find from professionals
both instructors, and, ye, even cops.

Harry K

* Around here you are always told to STAY WITH YOUR VEHICLE. If the
vehicle gets hit you stand a chance. If you get hit outside the
vehicle, you are DEAD. If you get lost in the blizzard, you are DEAD.

Stay in the car. Run the car occaisionally to provide some heat to
prevent freezing to death. Keap the exhaust clear to avoid gassing
yourself to death.

Kinda hard to run a car that has beens squashed. * I have never seen
anyone advise staying in a car on the highway in those multi car
bashes. *It is totally idiotic on the face of it.

Harry K

* Harry - I wasn't talking about in an accident - but you are MANY
TIMES safer in a car being hit than out in the open being hit.

I (and I believe WE) were talking about what to do when you cannot see
because of the blowing snow to AVOID becomming part of one of those
chain reaction collisions.

*You STAY WITH THE CAR. *That is the advice from virtually EVERY
winter driving safety expert. *And the same advice we were given when
winter rallying.

To avoid going through it again. *My advice _and the expert's advice_
in heavy fog GET OFF THE RAOD IF YOU CAN. *That is the entire point of
my posts but you keep tying to divert into other things.

Stick to the point and this time try to come up with a reason _not_ to
get as far off the road as possible.

Harry K

* And I NEVER said not to. All I was saying is STAY IN THE DAMNED CAR
IN A BLIZZARD!!!! And YOU said I was going against what the experts
say. *NOWHERE did I say not to get off the road - but if you are stuck
and you can NOT get off the road - STAY IN THE VEHICLE. and make the
vehicle conspicous. The chances of getting hit by anything other than
a snowplough after more than a short time after getting stuck is
pretty slim - you can't move, nor can anyone else.

IF you can still move, without hitting anything or running off the
road, get off the road COMPLETELY as soon as possible. - and STAY IN
THE VEHICLE unless you can reach shelter.

Nice try but the fact remains that I have been discussin ONLY getting
off the highway with your car if you can.

Sorry that you are unable to follow a discussion.

Harry K

* Then how come you've been dissagreeing with me and saying I was
going against the experts opinions when I NEVER said not to get off
the road. I did say sometimes it is IMPOSSIBLE to get off the road. *I
think perhaps there is someone else other than, or besides me, that
cannot follow a discussion.

NO, you brought in everyting else and I was waiting for you to bring
in the kitchen sink. You never actually addressed _anything_ I said
about getting the car off the road.

Harry K