On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 22:32:08 -0700, a friend
wrote:

On 10/12/2012 7:03 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 01:18:41 -0700, "Bruce L. Bergman (munged human
readable)" wrote:

On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:49:46 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:47:20 -0700, "Bruce L. Bergman (munged human
readable)" wrote:

On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 11:36:55 -0400, Tom Gardner Mars@Tacks wrote:

On 10/9/2012 2:45 AM, Gunner wrote:

Because this is a California problem. Our "special gasoline" is
blended differently during the summer months to "prevent pollution"
and is only changed to a more normal blend in late fall.

Gunner


Could it be the "Special Formulation" emits fumes that causes some
people to become radical leftists?

Shhh! They might make us use it year-round.

It's already the Liberal Literati's goal to drive fuel prices so high
we give up cars and take the bus everywhere - conveniently ignoring us
poor schlubs who have to drive a big heavy truck full of tools and
parts around to make a living.

I was thrilled to hear about more CNG/Gasoline Dual-Fuel trucks for
sale next year - then I heard it's going to be a $7,500 premium,
Diesel is only $4,000. And only 1/2 and 3/4 Ton sizes.

And then some Bright Boy will restrict the owners from using the Home
Refueling compressors ("PHILL") by saying "we can't control the
quality of the gas, so it will void your warranty..." which will
totally destroy the utility of the CNG - making you go to an
out-of-the-way refueling site and pay more for someone else to
compress it for you.

Doubles the price - it's like $1.50 a GGE if you do it yourself, $2.50
to $3 at the fill stations. And you have to go there to fill up - you
don't just disconnect the hose, hop in the truck and go to work.

Oh, and I didn't see anything about Cab-Chassis conversions, they want
to put the gas tanks in the bed.

-- Bruce --

Why not a gas/LPG setup? Gets you away from the high pressure CNG
tanks and associated apparatus. Conversion kits readily available,
quick change over from LPG to gasoline, or back. Been in use for years
and years.

Propane prices are tied to gasoline and diesel prices to a point - If
they can't refine gasoline they can't separate out the Propane and
Butane fractions either.

I just filled up my propane tank for my BBQ. It cost $7.56 for 4.7
gallons. That's a nice bit lower than gasoline, thankfully.

What gets me is the price of solvents. Alcohol, acetone, paint
thinner, and lacquer thinner are all $11-15 a freakin' gallon!


And it's a much larger problem to fuel at home with Propane, and no
economic advantage - Natural Gas I get via a convenient pipeline going
right to the house, and as much as I need.

I suppose it would be better if I lived outside a large city and had
the Propane on site anyway, and used enough to make the delivery fees
worth it - but if I try it here, I have to apply for special permits
and approvals, and grease a lot of palms with inspection fees and
annual licenses...

Really? I've been away from the propane scene for 10-3/4 years now
but there was never a delivery fee. They just came and topped it off
a few times a year, billing me only for gas used.

The permit thing is new, too. I understand that they're burying them
now for some reason, so maybe that's part of it. Excavation permits,
graft, other graft, etc.

Natural gas is quite a bit cheaper and I'm happier with it.

--
Energy and persistence alter all things.
--Benjamin Franklin


What gunner and the other guys who want to use home natural gas are
trying to do is to cheat the public by not paying the road use taxes
that come with using commercially supplied fuel - you see, the
conservatives figured out that the guys who use the road more should pay
more, so they did this with gas tax (more gas = more use, so pay more) -
makes sense until one of these nut jobs decides that it's time to cheat
and make everybody else pay for them and to again get a free ride. Now,
if they actually paid the tax, using your own gas would be fine, but
does anybody want to bet that these guys won't pay the tax if they can
get away with it?

What Gunner and the other guys do?

What other guys? And where in the world did you manage to get road use
taxes from my post about California's special blending of fuel?

You are a Leftwinger of course, and off your meds once again..or
rather...still off your meds.

I hope they hang you for a week, letting the crows peck out your eyes
and then dump you in the bottom of a mass grave with a bunch of
Klanners on top of you to keep your ass all warm and cuddled for
eternity.


"The best government is a benevolent tyranny tempered
by an occasional assassination." --Voltaire