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Alan Braggins wrote:
Lots of modern IC engined cars stop their engines if left to idle then
start them again automatically when you make to move off.

And lots don't, and some have switches to do it that their drivers don't
use, and they still need energy to get started and have a mininum
working speed.

White van man seems to be the worst. Usually having the engine running
while in a carpark, eating their lunch. Suppose it's because they don't
pay for the fuel - surely not all of them have battery problems?

IC cars with low CO2 emissions don't reduce congestion
either, but also get a discount on the congestion charge.

Quite. But then Livingston didn't understand cars any more than Boris.

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