On 15 Aug 2012 00:09:08 GMT, Han wrote:

"HeyBub" wrote in
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Han wrote:

Great link, right? Apart from the fact that there are only a few
people listed, out of millions (I hope) that voted, I was not
claiming that there is rampant voter fraud. Let the claimant show
the link. That has been thrown at me, you know. I'll be the first
to want to punish a fraudulent voter. On the other hand, I became a
green card holder and was disappointed I couldn't vote (and didn't).
But I thought it a good idea to try and become a citizen, and was
successful (I think in 1984).

In some few jurisdictions, you CAN vote for local offices. It is a
federal crime for a non-citizen to vote for a federal office.

That is correct, and the best way to phrase it. You have to draw the
line somewhere and I agree that green card holders should naturalize
first. And learn real English. It would help.

OMG! That's quite illiberal of you. ;-)

There is no shortage of candidates for citizenship. Fluent English, both
written and oral, should be a requirement for a green card.

Such as that nice older
lady who didn't understand erased for privacy at the doctor's office.
Too many around here who (not that) only speak Russian, Ukranian or
Spanish.

It's not just "around here" (though the languages vary).