Leon wrote:


BS! I will admit starting out that a person with an education should
be considered for the job over some one starting out that does not
have as much education but deserving a good paying job, no way, not
until he proves himself.



BS? Come on Leon - the guy that graduated has already proven himself to
some degree, over the clown that has done nothing more than walk in and try
to tell you that he "can do it". He has already invested in learning - just
like your son did. He has already passed some level of accredation of that
learning effort. And you are trying to say that someone just walking in
with no such credentials is the equal to that? Bull****! So - in terms of
pay - he does not deserve some level of pay that reflects this? You want to
pay him as a rank amature with no knowledge at all? I'm not saying - nor
have I said, that he deserves great levels of pay, but he has in fact
already proven himself to be worth more than the guy with no knowledge that
is simply "interested" in this kind of work.


I have seen though, more of what I think you are getting at. Over
the past 10 years or so (or so...), I have seen more kids coming out
of colleges thinking they are more than what they really are,
because they hold that degree. In a word - they don't know what
they don't know.

I can easily remember seeing this way of thinking 30 years ago, this
is nothing new, it is just seen more often with more unqualified grads
available.



It actually is something new. The cries from the under-educated are the
same, but that's only because they resent the knowledge these kids actually
do come out with. Now note - that is different from their social
expectations. 30 years ago the school of hard knocks was still the banter
of those who did not have that degree. But... where would we have been in
the space race, or the cold war or in any of our technological
developements, had it not been for those educations? Pick your favorite -
Albert Einstein - no degree? School of hard knocks? Kerrnigan and Ritchie?
No degrees? School of hard knocks? The list goes on and on. To derride an
education is purely ludicrous! Those who most decry the people around them
are those who most are threatened by what those people really are.



Now we agree. ;~)

Of course - in the end, we always agree!

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-Mike-