tiredofspam wrote:
On 7/23/2012 6:13 PM, Bill wrote:
Mike Marlow wrote:
zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 01:10:00 -0400, Bill wrote:
Virtually all of my students are finding decent jobs.
I'd like to see your stats. What college? What degree?
Good question. I don't think there are really many people out there who
would make Bill's statement.
All I will say further is that one of our students got a job as a
software developer with Microsoft last year.
that means nothing to me. I don't respect MS.
Google +1
MS -10
I respect more of what I see coming out of the open foundation than from
MS.. I don't find MS software that good. Unfortunately Open Foundation
stuff doesn't pay the bills.
You only represented one person.
Yes. I presumed that you might believe that if MS would hire one of our
students, that other companies might hire some of the others. Not every
student will move accross the country for a job. In my experience (whose
years are in the double-digits), good students in computer science find
jobs.
I enjoy being "Bill, the generic academic" on Usenet, and trying to help
provide insight where I can. However, some have begun to cross a line,
prompting me from more detailed information about me and my school. I
would prefer to maintain some privacy, as almost everyone here does to
some degree. I also feel it would be inappropriate for me to share job
placement and/or other data about my school, which I don't have anyway.
The data is not mine to disseminate. I have many success stories. I
would have to refer you to the registrar's office or admissions for more
statistics. I think if you contacted the department of admissions, at
most any school, that they would have data to share. Thank you for your
understanding!
The discussion has been interesting. I am always interested in looking
for ways to help students. I think that helping them select
forward-looking majors and minors gets them off to a good start! I agree
that a trade school may be a better investment for many than a 4-year
education. As I've commented earlier, it's the consumers choice (of how
and where to spend).
Perhaps it's a matter of defining what the
phrase "decent jobs" means to Bill. Having graduated 4 kids from
college, I
know from first hand knowledge that Bill's statement does not
represent the
norm. I don't believe it even represents his experience...
See last comment.