On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 16:50:08 +0100, "harryagain"
wrote:

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But one guy with a CC permit and a clear line of fire might have saved
some lives that day.

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The key word is might. It is worthwhile to review the
circumstances:

(1) It was dark (pitch black).

(2) The area was packed with people.

(3) The shooter was wearing full body armor and a gas mask.

(4) The shooter had just thrown at least one tear gas
grenade, and many of the people in the immediate area were
having trouble even breathing, let alone seeing the shooter
to get a sight picture, even with a red dot laser sight.

(5) Many of the people thought it was some sort of publicity
stunt at the start.

(6) When you are with your family in a movie you are not in
the "psyched up" combat mode (or if you are, you need
counseling and/or meds before you have a heart attack or
stroke).

(7) The typical concealed carry weapon is a 32/380 or at
most a 9 mm, any of which is highly doubtful to make much of
an impression on a pumped up shooter, possibly on drugs,
wearing body armor. A high energy/high penetration
weapon/round effective against body armor and/or with
sufficient "knock down", such as a FMJ 38 super automatic
(CIP designation) would have extreme danger of over
penetration and ricochet in a dense movie crowd.

(8) IMNSHO -- given the uncertain circumstances and great
danger of collateral damage, even a SWAT trained
professional would have hesitated to open fire, and would
have difficulty in target acquisition.

FWIW -- I am reposting below an earlier observation about
the laxity of investigation from an epistemological
standpoint, ==given the increasing frequency, magnitude and
total illogic of recent shooting and assault incidents.==

===== repeat of earlier posting =====

The usual rhetoric will now spew from the demagogs and
rabble-rousers of both the right and the left, the results
of which will be the traditional debate about how many
angels can dance on the head of a pin and resolve nothing,
while generating large campaign contributions.

== This incident, particularly on top of other recent
incidents, given the detailed preparations and planning, is
far past a "**** happens" explication. ==

Clearly there is a serious and growing problem of unprovoked
and random violence, which is rapidly escalating in both
frequency and magnitude, but what concrete investigative
steps have been or are being taken, not only in this
instance, but nationwide?

==Is the CDC involved in epidemiological analysis of these
incidents, and if not, why not?==

* Were blood samples taken from the suspect on arrest and
analyzed for known =and more importantly unknown=
substances? Is some sort of "super bath salts" or drug
combination/cocktail loose on the streets?

* Were CAT scans made of the suspect's head looking for
brain damage, changes and abnormalities? Is there a new
infectious agent involved or have new street drugs caused
organic brain damage/changes?

* Has the suspect been psychologically analyzed or tested,
particularly for some sort of mind control or post hypnotic
suggestion, possibly in combination with the known/unknown
substances in his blood? Have terrorists developed a real
life "Manchurian Candidate" process?

* How frequently did the suspect play video games and what
types/brands were these? Is this a copycat crime based on a
video game fantasy?

* In as far as it is possible to determine, was the
suspect's diet in way unique or unusual, for example
habitually consuming large amounts of a particular soft
drink or snack?

Lets cut the crap, and get the facts...

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