"codepath" wrote in message ...
I have been in the computer industry for over 15 years myself. The last 8 at
Microsoft as a developer. You may not like Microsoft's business practices or
some of the management-level decisions regarding our products, but I believe
that most people in the industry would agree that as developers, we ain't
too shabby.

Man, you really opened yourself up for flames here. You're not going
to win any arguments, so you should just stop posting in this thread.

Micro$oft programmers' opinions of themselves is a huge part of the
problem. You think you're badass, and stuff starts slipping through
the cracks.

I'm a game programmer and we were forced to "upgrade" to .NET for XBox
development. What a heap of crap it is. There are so many problems
that I can't believe it got out the door. Even more stunning is the
fact that there are no service packs for these problems.

Micro$oft ruined SourceSafe when they bought the product, renamed it
"Visual SourceSafe," and destabilized it. Now everyone is running to
Perforce because some "not too shabby" programmers there decided to
innovate.

Micro$oft is the Wal-Mart of software. Nobody likes them. They're both
the biggest, they both sell crap, and everyone buys it.

At least I don't use Windoze much at home. I don't use a computer much
at home. I head out to the wooodshop

You can think you're as badass as you want. You may even be badass,
but you're not smart for putting your efforts into a company that
takes no pride in it's products. Through poor quality, Micro$oft
tarnishes the "Made in USA" label just as badly as the American
automakers. At least there are better, more popular choices for cars.

-Mike