Southern California has very little to do with the majority of
the state. There's no smog problem where I live and the
same can be said with the majority of the state. At least
no more than around any other part of the country. Ever
been to Denver? The same goes for the crime/gang problem.
Gangs aren't a problem except in the major metro areas
and that would apply to *any* state. I lived in Portland, Or.
for a few years. I moved because I got sick of the gangs.
What do you mean by wall-to-wall cities? Did you ever
leave Southern California? Really. That's the only part of
the state that's really like that more than any other state
and that's mostly just the L.A. area. The S.F. Bay Area
is congested too but not as much as many areas on the
East Coast. Between that is lots of wide open spaces.
Dry, dead landscape??? This confirms that all you know
is the far southern portion of the state. The majority of
the state is green, either from trees or crops.

Bruce
Redding, Ca.


"Greg M" wrote in message
m...
I grew up in Riverside, California but moved in 1995 to Michigan
when I was
fifteen because of my Mother's health problems, which were in large
part
caused by the smog. The main response I hear from people after I
tell them
that I moved from California is "Why would you want to do that?". Of
course,
there's always the completely idiotic, "I have a friend/relative
that lives
in California, do you know him?" I still miss some things about
California
and a lot of the things that you listed. I guess the thing I miss
the most
about California is the mountains. However, I don't think I would
want to
move back to California if given the chance because of the smog,
gangs,
traffic, allergies, wall-to-wall cities and dry, dead landscape.
I've been
living in the Detroit Metro area for the past year and before that I
was
going to school for five years in Houghton, MI (in the U.P.). The
Detroit
suburbs remind me a lot of California, except for the significantly
lower
amount of import automobiles :-)

P.S. One thing I hate about Michigan is the people that refer to
California
as "Cali". They hear it once in a rap song and suddenly they're hip
enough
to repeat it endlessly. Also, my dad is convinced that there are
more morons
per capita in Michigan than California, and he refers to them as
"Mich-a-tards"

Greg M

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
Heya all,
You know you *don't* live in California when...

1. You believe every stereotype you've ever heard
about California.

2. You're so geographically ignorant that you think that
the entire state is made up of the Los Angeles area
and the San Francisco area.

3. You don't realize that California has the most geographical
variety of any state in the Union. It has the highest point
in the continental U.S., (Mt. Whitney) as well as the
lowest, (Death Valley). It has the largest trees. And on
a more subjective note, the most beautiful National parks
that include Yosemite. A huge number of lakes, rivers and
streams as well as on of the most beautiful coastlines in
the
world. It also shares with Nv. one of the most beautiful
natural lakes in the world, Lake Tahoe.

4. You're too ignorant to understand that the majority of the
people who "normal" people would call freaks came from
other states. Still, the majority of the people in
California
are decent, hard working people who aren't like the people
that the shut-ins, (like Bob Schmall) have seen on T.V. or
in movies.

5. You don't realize that California produces more food than
anywhere else in the U.S. The millions of acres of farmland
are just part of what makes California easily the most
beautiful
state in the Union.

6. You're ignorant of the fact that our governor can easily kick
the ass of any other governor in the Union or, for that
matter,
any other world leader. (Jesse Ventura is no longer the
governor
of Minnesota)

7. You don't realize that some of us Native Californians get
rather
sensitive when our state is unjustly bad-mouthed...Sniff,
Sob!

Yeah, I know, it was just a joke and lighten up, right? Well,
I've
spent way too much time in New York and Texas visiting in-laws
who think just like your retarded California-bashing list. As is
evidenced by the few responses that have shown up so far, it's
apparent that many of you non-Californians are under the same
misconceptions. All of you who really believe the list are quite
welcome to stay out of California and make sure you avoid all
of the products produced here. Better rent a big dumpster because
it's going to be *full*. Deposit your computer and it's software
in
there too. Better get that garden growing while you're at it.

Bruce,
A proud native Californian who's lived in many different states
and
visited many more. I'll stay where I am thank you.