-MIKE- wrote:
On 5/28/12 5:53 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
On 5/27/12 11:21 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Steve Turner wrote:
To try to get you to understand how the block is more prone to
shifting around with only a single fixed surface to hold it
against. But trying to hold a conversation with you is like
talking to one of those voice recognition systems.
Whatever. You're like so many here are getting to be. Can't carry
on a civil conversation. Screw it - not worth it, and I'm not
interested.
Give it up. When you start see problems with everybody else, maybe
the problem is with you and not them.
It is amazing how many people here either cannot or do not read. Compare
my words above to what you took from them Mike. That is one
of the very frustrating aspects of trying to communicate here.
That's kind of my point. You always seem to get in these little
semantic arguments with everyone and you just won't let them go. Is
it everyone else who can't understand you, cannot or do not read,
infers different meanings from everything you write.... or is it
maybe you who have the difficulty communicating via text format?
Mike - that may well be a point well taken, and for what it's worth, that
thought is not lost on me. My point is that I have observed this pattern
throughout the group - regardless of the participants. I won't suggest my
participation is any less, or even any more reflective of that. I do admit
that I am the kind of guy that does not let go of these these things soon
enough - again - to your point. But... that's a common thing in this group.
In the case of the above exchange between the two of us - that would
represent something that I hold very dearly. It's one thing to call a guy
on something he actually says. It's quite something else to take his words
to some different statement. I may die a struggling idealist, but that is a
real bug point for me.
There's a lot of macho pride here that just does not like anything they say
being questioned in any way. Once that happens, the ad-homenums start
flying as well as the red herrings that have nothing to do with anything
that had been said - all to make the author feel more manly. I just don't
have much time for that behavior.
Like I have said in the past - I can screw up a lot of things. I really
don't have a problem with that admission. But I do value honest exchange
and honest conversation. Sometimes misunderstandings will occur, and if
pursued honestly, they will be resolved. Around here - there's just too
much of the "I know what you meant... (regardless of what you try to say -
and clarify), " and "I suppose you also...", and those who derive their
sense of value by derriding those around them. It's evident in all of their
posts. Not just within the group - everyone they talk about is somehow
lesser than them. Oh well...
I just don't play life that way. I'm a lot more intrigued by things,
interested in the things I participate in, and concerned for both offering
what I know, and learning new things, than I am for all of the ego that
exists here.
I'm not assigning a percentage to this statement, but there are too many
here who just have to be too damned authoratative for their own good. I've
seen enough over the years to have seen and know that no one escapes their
wrath if they don't knuckle under. Lots of great talent and knowledge here.
More than one way to day most everything right. Lots of people who want to
participate in the process of learning/growing/contributing. Too many that
just can't seen to understand that.
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-Mike-