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Default sizing home jointers and planers?

On 4/10/2012 12:24 PM, tiredofspam wrote:


On 4/10/2012 12:10 PM, Jack wrote:
On 4/10/2012 10:29 AM, tiredofspam wrote:
Sorry, I don't agree.


You don't agree that you can buy a cheap Ryobi, a middle priced Grizz,
or a high priced Festool?

There have been many decisions to water down brands to save money.


Sure, it is a business decision. Few people want to spend $500 on a shop
vac, lots spend 80 bucks on a shop vac. All are available to everyone,
at least in the USA where "MBAthink" reigns.

Without going into a long dissertation, the MBA takes the choice away,
they don't add to the choices. Since they are all taking the quality
away and making it cheaper (not less expensive), what used to be common
place, is now no longer to be found. Good???


You could always buy quality and cheap products, at least in my lifetime.

maybe for some bottom
lines. But not good in general. The downward spiral can not be stopped.


I don't think you could have found a 15" planer with a spiral, segmented
cutter head at anywhere near the price of a Grizz, even if not adjusted
for government inflation, 40 years ago. You are very wrong about the
choices.

We are lacking talent, because we have made it so. Yes the consumer is
partly responsible, but the MBA is responsible, and so is corporate
America (kills free thinking and ingenuity) . So I think each gets a
third of the pie.


Corporate America pays big money for free thinking and ingenuity. that's
why you can buy a shop vac that works fine for $80 or $500, or a Tsaw
for $500 or $1500 or $3500, your choice.


You are so wrong about that.


Nope, I'm right about that.

Corp America stifles free thinking and
ingenuity. The problem with Corp America is that anyone who wants to
bring change is told that's not the way we do it. Over and over I hear
this.


Yet, changes are made, over, and over and over.

If you can show them that it creates more problems doing it the
way they are doing it, they will stick to doing it the way they are used
to.


And then they go out of business, or sell out to someone willing to do
it in a way the consumer wants it done.

It's safe that way. No managers will stick their necks out. The
culture that has been created is not about quality or change.. its about
ROI.. and that is where it all breaks down.


Would you like to compare the fence on my 1954 Unisaur compared to the
fence on the current unisaur? Would you like to compare the door
latches on a 1955 Ford to those on a 2012 Ford? Don't bother as you
will find Corporate America does just fine. They do it right, or go out
of business, or, get huge government handouts from corrupt socialist
governments (Solandra) and still go out of business.

When "corporate America is forced by government hacks to only sell $3500
Table saws, then free thinking and ingenuity will be killed, but not by
corporate America, but Big Government America, AKA, your socialist Big
Brother.


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Jack
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