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Default OT - New thread on Florida shooting


"Molly Brown" wrote in message
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On Mar 26, 2:36 pm, "HeyBub" wrote:
"With a single punch, Trayvon Martin [the deceased] decked the
Neighborhood
Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old,
then
Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman [the non-deceased] and slammed
his head into the sidewalk, leaving him bloody and battered, law
enforcement
authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.

"That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been
corroborated by witnesses, authorities say. There have been no reports
that
a witness saw that initial punch Zimmerman told police about. "

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...trayvon-martin...

Now contrast the story from the Orlando Sentinel (above) with one from
the
Chicago Tribune (below). The latter seems more interested in the protests
over the shooting.

"Martin was killed one month ago today. That's one month of justice
denied,
according to protesters who are expected to amass throughout the day to
continue their demand for Zimmerman's arrest in the Sanford, Fla. case."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...tin-case-20120...

Once again, our president seems to have spoken before all the facts are
in.

Maybe a beer summit can sort it all out.


1. To defend yourself means when you’re not moving or going anywhere
and someone is coming after you, your loved one or your property.


WRONG !
To defend yourself means to defend yourself INDEPENDENT of your "motion" or
"location

2. Unless you’re a member of SWAT and on duty, a gun can only be used
as a defense.


WRONG AGAIN
But I'm not even going to bother addressing the many ways this one is wrong


3. When you go AFTER someone ( read # 1 above) then you are no longer
considered to be defending yourself.


WRONG AGAIN !
1) If you "go after someone", is ONLY an issue if you CONTINUED the
process unchanged
2) If you "go after someone" the stop and attempt to leave, condition 1)
is annulled and if attacked self-defense DOES apply to you
3) If 2) then if the other comes after you, condition 1) applies to the
other, and self-defense applies to you and NOT the other.


Florida has a marvelous law of “stand your ground” that is extremely
useful. If people like you don’t stop trying to subvert it, we’re all
going to lose.


Nobody has tried to subvert it.
You seem to have an incomplete understanding of the basic principles
that apply to self-defense INDEPENDENT of SYG.