On 3/7/2012 9:44 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:

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On 3/7/2012 8:48 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
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On 3/7/2012 12:29 AM, PrecisionmachinisT wrote:
"Donn wrote in message
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On 3/6/2012 10:48 PM, Wild_Bill wrote:
I happen to believe that the writing is on the wall, and it should be
crystal clear by now.. but I also believe that almost no one learns
anything.

Any product that needs to be built right, can't/shouldn't/won't be
built
in China.

[...]

You are deluding yourself. There is a continuum of quality, and
sometimes
top of the line with finer tolerances isn't needed and isn't cost
effective. China is going to keep manufacturing a lot of things, and
the
quality is only going to get better over time.

40 years ago, people were saying the same things about Japanese
manufacturing. My younger brother was a fairly typical gearhead
mechanic
in those days, and they all referred to Japanese cars as "Jap crap."
Look
where that attitude got the American car companies.

A couple of decades later it was the South Koreans. Their stuff was
called junk. Today, LG appliances, Samsung electronics, Hyundai cars
and
several other products are world beaters.


World leading in sales volume perhaps--for the most part, still junk.

Sorry, that's bull****. LG and Samsung absolutely are world quality
leaders in their markets. Hyundai is better than any American brand car
(I'm not talking about the Japanese cars engineered in Japan and built
in America), and they're close to the Japanese.

Your disdain for Chinese goods is largely based on chauvinism and
racism, the same as the disdain once felt for Japanese goods.


Nope, my disdain is based on my own personal experience using crappy Chinese goods and it's validated every time I go to the city dump and have a look at the kinds of items that are ending up in our overflowing landfills.

You go to the "city dump" a lot, do you? I'm sorry, I don't believe you.




If you think China is not going to continue to grow and improve at
manufacturing, you are delusional and probably a menace to the safety of
your family and colleagues.

You are a delusional fool.

Uh-huh - nice non-rebuttal, dummy.

**** off, jack ass.

*You* **** off, you impotent little douche.


Neener neener neener......


Obviously, you know very little about Chinese culture.

And you do? HA HA HA HA HA!


Well, I happen to be a US manufacturer who has three distributers in China and they probably account for more sales volume than all of Europe combined.

That's lovely. I still doesn't make you an expert in Chinese culture.
I suspect your consumption of egg flower soup and cashew chicken is
about as much exposure to Chinese culture as you've had in your entire life.





When and if outside firms begin an exodus away from China, the more likely
result will be a significant overall decline in Chinese manufacturing
prowess.

It's not going to happen.

Missed the original article did you ?

--It's happening....right now, in fact....

I read the article. It's an anecdote. It may - *may* - be describing a
small trickle of on-shoring; it's not a flood, and it's unlikely to
become one.