On 2/18/2012 1:10 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 2/18/2012 1:03 PM, Hawke-Ptooey, totalitarian, wrote a lot of bull****:
On 2/18/2012 12:43 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 2/18/2012 12:24 PM, Hawke-Ptooey, totalitarian, wrote a lot of
bull****:
On 2/17/2012 2:15 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 2/17/2012 2:11 PM, Hawke-Ptooey, totalitarian, wrote a lot of
bull****:
On 2/16/2012 7:23 PM, George Plimpton wrote:

No, "society" did no such thing. "Society" doesn't *do* anything.
Society is merely s description of people viewed together rather
than in
isolation.

No debt *ever* is owed to "society" for having engaged in
productive
effort. If I'm sitting around on a weekend afternoon
considering my
options, and I think I can (a) sit around and watch sports on
TV, or
(b)
go outside and repair something on my house, or (c) go across the
street
to my neighbor and repair something on his house in exchange for
$100,
"society" has no valid ethical claim on any part of the $100 if I
choose
(c).

Your beliefs about society are 100% wrong. They have no basis in
logic,
ethics or law.


You wouldn't have the choices you just described if it wasn't for
the
society that has been built here in the last 200 years by lots of
other
people.

It isn't the "society". Society is a description, not an entity.
"Society" does nothing.


Dude, you need to go back to school and take Sociology.

Sociology is even more worthless than political science. It's complete
and utter bull****.


Ignorant people always say things just like that.

Nope. Knowledgeable people who know what's what say it.

Sociology and economics usually make completely opposite statements
about human behavior. The predictions economists make about human
behavior are almost always right, sociologists' nearly always wrong. It
is simply a fact that there is no theory whatever behind sociology; it's
all wishful thinking.


What's wishful thinking is that economics has the answers to anything.

It has the answers to understanding most of human behavior.


Maybe in your dreams it does. In real life it does a crappy job
predicting anything. I just heard Peter Orszag give a talk today and he
pointed out how all the economists had gotten it wrong predicting the
recession. Even the CBO predicted that unemployment would be only 6.3%
by now. By the way, he's Citibank Global Operations VP so he's not
connected with the government in any way. When someone like that tells
you all the economists got it wrong it's believable. But it's like I
said, they always get it wrong, and that's why it's a poor field to be in.


Hawke