On 2/18/2012 12:43 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 2/18/2012 12:24 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 2/17/2012 2:15 PM, George Plimpton wrote:
On 2/17/2012 2:11 PM, Hawke wrote:
On 2/16/2012 7:23 PM, George Plimpton wrote:

No, "society" did no such thing. "Society" doesn't *do* anything.
Society is merely s description of people viewed together rather
than in
isolation.

No debt *ever* is owed to "society" for having engaged in productive
effort. If I'm sitting around on a weekend afternoon considering my
options, and I think I can (a) sit around and watch sports on TV, or
(b)
go outside and repair something on my house, or (c) go across the
street
to my neighbor and repair something on his house in exchange for
$100,
"society" has no valid ethical claim on any part of the $100 if I
choose
(c).

Your beliefs about society are 100% wrong. They have no basis in
logic,
ethics or law.


You wouldn't have the choices you just described if it wasn't for the
society that has been built here in the last 200 years by lots of
other
people.

It isn't the "society". Society is a description, not an entity.
"Society" does nothing.


Dude, you need to go back to school and take Sociology.

Sociology is even more worthless than political science. It's complete
and utter bull****.


Ignorant people always say things just like that.

Nope. Knowledgeable people who know what's what say it.

Sociology and economics usually make completely opposite statements
about human behavior. The predictions economists make about human
behavior are almost always right, sociologists' nearly always wrong. It
is simply a fact that there is no theory whatever behind sociology; it's
all wishful thinking.


What's wishful thinking is that economics has the answers to anything.
It has none. It's a soft science too. Ask an economist a question and he
never knows anything for sure. He can't predict anything. He never sees
anything coming until it's way too late. All the recommendations of
economists are worthless. Talk about useless bull****. You won't find
anything better to tear apart than anything an economist says. All you
have to do is get another one of them and he will tell you what the
first one said is ridiculous. Go get another an he'll tell you what the
second one said is ridiculous, and on and on. None of them agrees with
any of the other ones. And to think some people think having a degree in
a piece of crap field like economics means they have brains. It means
they don't. Why else does no one listen to what they say?

Hawke