Here I made a video for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wlkN...endscreen&NR=1

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"Steve Barker" wrote in message
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YABUT... if they don't go through a 3/4 plywood when you miss the joist
at point blank, why would anyone believe they could penetrate ANYthing
at any distance? I doubt you could get a nail to stick in a pumpkin at 20'.