On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 06:11:52 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Jan 22, 8:19Â*pm, "Robert Green" wrote:
"Evan" wrote in message

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On Jan 20, 6:15 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

wrote:
Cut a foot of 14 ga Romex. And a foot of this wire. weigh each on a postal
scale, see how close the weights are.

`That is a totally bogus method... The Romex wire thermoplastic insulation
is MUCH heavier than the
insulation used on speaker cable... Your testing method would require
stripping the wires to actually
compare how much metal is in the wire...

Stormie's got a good point if I strip the insulation from both samples.
I've got a very accurate electronic scale that will show the difference in
copper content.

I've taken some photos that I think make it pretty clear this isn't 14GA
wire. Â*I've cut it at 90 degrees and compared it to 12, 14, 16 and 18GA
speaker wire I have. Â*You can see how much less copper and more jacket than
there is with *real* 14GA wire. Â*I also feathered out the end of a stripped
piece of both the real and the fake 14GA and it's incredibly obvious that
it's substantially smaller than real 14GA (although the jacket sizes are
identical!).

The vendor is quite unapologetic, saying "I'll give you $5 off if you're
unhappy with the wire." Â*I am unhappy about being defrauded. Â*I'm going to
see what Amazon does, since this guy's ripping people off using their name
and claiming the manufacturer "forces" him to list it falsely. Â*What really
peeves me is someone could blow out an amp trying to use this wire where
*real* 14GA is required.

It would be some bizarre amp to be blown
up by using less than 14 gauge wire to hook
it up to speakers.



I wonder how many packages of this crap wire this
cheat sold?


I wonder how many overpriced speaker wire sets
you've bought.



Â*He sounds like he's gotten away with it for a long, long time
and seems totally unconcerned that Amazon would do anything about it.

--
Bobby G.


Unless the resistance of the wire is so high the output circuit is WAY
outside spec AND the amp is pushed to it's limit, it is extremely
unlikely the amplifier would be damaged. In home and institurional
systems running 4 and 8 ohm speakers, it would be a REAL longshot with
less than 50 feet of wire.

In some real heavy duty auto installations with 2 ohm systems pumping
out mega-watts of power? Perhaps.

What DOES happen with too-small wires in high powered home systems is
you loose crispness (or stiffness) in the base due to a combination of
reduced power at low frequencies and reduced damping.
The bass gets "muddy".

You need to have GOOD ears to hear the difference - perhaps 1 in 50
under 50 would qualify today.