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On 1/20/2012 7:11 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 16:16:17 +0930, "Kevin(Bluey)"
wrote:

On 1/20/2012 11:49 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:55:18 -0600, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 12:41:38 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

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Nothing available from the Orient? Perhaps a chinese or jap vise may be
simply cheaper in the long run?
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I am also looking for a small shaper vise for my 7 inch
atlas. Only source of new supply I could find is Indian,
and these were not cheap.

http://www.csvworkholding.com/produc...p?productId=86

also see for information about rolling your own.
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/arc...p/t-41364.html
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/showthread.php?t=39781
http://www.neme-s.org/shapers/column...column_57.html



Check this guys store...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shaper-and-M...-/350340374977



These vices are the ones produced in India they dont look very sturdy
due to the base area , plus they have only two hold down holes for the
base to table mounting .
I would be concerned taking decent cuts on a 18" shaper using that vice.


First thing you do..is remove the swivel base. While they make the vise
"more versitile"..they also can inject some flex into a vise..and flex
with a shaper..is not a good thing.

Having once owned an Indian made 4" bench vice that broke at the throat
just behind the moving jaw , on inspection it had been filled with auto
bog to hide the sand cavities in the casting.


Indeed. You got a bad one. They are not all universally bad. And I
posted some non Indian vises as well.

General rule for shaper vices is that the jaw width should be 50% of the
stroke length.


Correct, which is why I suggested in my previous post..what size work
are you actually going to be doing? If its typically small stuff..get a
vise now you can afford..and keep your eyes peeled for a bigger one that
you may find later.

There is an Indian made vice that has a two hole mounting plate that
could be drilled at the corners to make a four hole mount.
http://www.machinetools-india.com/machine-vices.html
scroll down to the ninth listing , I
might just e-mail them and see what the cost of a 8 or 10" one is and
how much the shipping would be. They look a bit sturdier than the Shars
(discountmachine) offering .

BTW I missed out on that big mother of a twin screw shaper vice ,it went
for $100.00AUD.
Freight to here would have been 200.00AUD at guess.


Put the word out on EVERY metalworking newsgroup/website in Oz that you
are looking for a shaper vise of a certain size. Ive gotten very good
deals/swaps doing that for wierd stuff.
Know any truck brokers? The guys who schedule cargo runs from point to
point? If a guy 2500 KM from you has a vise, but a truck will be going
there next month..a broker may well know and shipping will be vastly
cheaper if you have a bit of cash on hand. Got one in your town? Make
his aqqaintence. I once got something from a guy in Texas that came in
with a load of produce.VBG 250lbs for $40


Oh..and keep in mind...a 9" vise..is going to be a heavy *******.
You dont want your grand mum trying to load it in her Holden.
Grin


Gunner


Gunner

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Gunner Asch


Managed to secure a williams tool holder from your side of the pond it's
a T-2-s no back rake 21.00US + frieght
$35.00 allup .

My grandma is long gone ,and she drove a Morris. LOL.

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Kevin (Bluey)
"I'm not young enough to know everything."