On 1/15/2012 3:40 PM, Hawwke-ptooey wrote:
On 1/15/2012 6:08 AM, wrote:
On Jan 15, 12:33 am, wrote:

Let's look at your statement "most of my friends have demonstrated that
they are in the top 2%". Really? How many friends are we talking about?

Close friends, less than a dozen, either Mensans or would easily qualify
if they bothered. A more extended group, maybe another 30, probably only
2/3 operate at that level.

One, two, fifty? So how many is most of your friends and how have they
demonstrated they are in the top 2%? Did you check them to see they are
in the near genius level? Being a bit less that truthful here aren't
you?

You seem to the only one who missed the significance of the 2% figure I
used. Why does that not surprise me?


Hawwke-ptooey

The top 2 % is not that remarkable. Looking at Wiki, the top 2 % just
means an IQ of 131 or better. When I was working in Alaska, one of my
friends knew he was smart and wanted a way to get it on his employment
record. At the time the company gave IQ tests , but not at remote
sites as where we were in Alaska. Anyway I contacted the right people
in the company and got permission to give IQ tests to employees. No
danger in my cheating as I had already taken the test before going to
Alaska. I can not remember all the scores, but as I remember the
lowest score was about 120 and most scores were 130 or more. Not the
results one would get if testing the general population, but this was
a group of electronic techs and engineers.


Dan



I'm not too sure that example is very useful. I think genius IQs are in
the 140-150 range or slightly above. So if your group had an average IQ
of 130 they were far above average, yep, maybe in the top 2%.

As I expected, you know nothing about intelligence testing or IQ. There
is no such thing as a "genius IQ" outside the popular media, which is
also responsible for nonsense characterizations like non matching socks
and pocket protectors.

131 is where it starts, some of the people I had dinner with last night
are as far beyond me as I am beyond you. Very exciting to talk with.

Unlike you, who are the sort of person I joined Mensa to avoid.


But I bet
you can't say that about your normal friends and family. I know I can't.

Again, I'm not surprised that your friends and family don't qualify for
Mensa.

So I'm saying that I don't believe this guy's friends are all in the 2%
intellect category. He's making that up so he can try to make me seem
dumb.

You do that to yourself, I'm just pointing out.

The point is he has to make up a lie to do it.

No lie, but I don't have to prove anything to you.

I never said I'm that smart, just smarter than average. I don't know
how much but I did have IQ tests in high school and I was supposed
to be getting really good grades based on that.

Based on what you've shown here, I'd guesstimate IQ of about 115-120,
considered High Normal, a little below where you find most politicians
and successful businessmen, which usually run 120-135. OTOH, my dad was
a successful civil engineer, architect and businessman with an IQ of 146.

At the time my gradesshowed me to be in the bottom 2%. But back then all
I did was screwaround and I don't think I ever did any homework in
four years of high school. I changed. When I got my B.A. my grades
were good enough for the grad school to accept me. So things do change.

Hawwke-ptooey

Was it a conscious decision to stop learning after you got your BA? Did
you realize you now knew everything you would ever need to?

David