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In article , The Other Mike
scribeth thus
On Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:20:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

For those of an aviation bent....

The final verdict on 447

http://www.popularmechanics.com/prin...ed-aboard-air-

france-447-6611877?page=all

and what a total ****ing cockup the copilot made of it.


Probably. But its more than just the competence of the copilot. There
are some invented bits in there worthy of the Daily Mail "Suddenly, a
strange aroma, like an electrical transformer, floods the cockpit"
Where does that snippet of info come from?


Most prolly the smell of the electrical discharge mentioned earlier.
I've seen that on a glider canopy and its well shall we say, hair
raising and does have quite a distinct electrical pong;!...



more incompetent than an EU head of state. But that's socialism. Can't
sack someone because they cant fly a plane. Or run a continent.


It's fundamental flaws in the training. Spins, real life ones, in
agile training aircraft, with practical application of recovery
techniques are no longer mandated.

Key points are avoid coffin corner at all costs, and if the **** hits
the fan, fly the wing by applying appropriate power and maintaining an
appropriate attitude, expecting the computer to sort it out while
holding the sidestick fully back is not a good idea. They lost the
A320 in the crash in the woods at Mulhouse with actions like that over
20 years ago.


Yes well training maybe but it seems a problem in the aircraft design
that one of them was in a panic state with the stick back (Bonin) and
the other didn't know what he was doing. Even I'd be very wary of
keeping the stick back for a long time like that, its almost against
natural instinct!...


Dropping like a stone in what became a self induced stall from 35000
feet (after zooming to 37000ft) is inexcusable regardless of what the
instruments are telling you. There are also no references to
observations of standby ASI and attitude indicators on the voice
recorder - relying exclusively on the main displays is not good, and
occasionally fatal.


Indeed..

Pity the captain wasn't called that bit sooner, but in the time its
taken to read that short report and transcript they had gone from dickey
bird to submarine mode;(...

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Tony Sayer